Federal Fusion Bullets

[singleVI]

Can anybody get the Federal Fusion bullets for reloading? I cant find them but maybe I havnt looked hard enough. I want to load up some 158grainers for my 357.

[quickdtoo]

Nope.

[singleVI]

Nope as in you cant findany of nope as in you cant buy them? It'd be kind of odd that they sell them in their loaded ammo but not separately.

[quickdtoo]

They're only available in ammo, no component bullets, although I think Midway did sell some at one time and they sell some muzzleloader bullets in sabots now. It's not unusual at all, try and find the Hornady FlexTip bullets as components that are used in Leverevolution ammo!!

Tim

[OR-E-Gun Bill]

 
Federal has used Speer bullets in several of their rifle & pistol ammo products in the past. (Same parent company)

Just a thought, with no positive facts:
While maybe not using the "Fusion" name as such, is it possible the Speer Uni-Cor Bullets are one in the same??

Bill

[quickdtoo]

The Fusion bullet is a proprietary bullet, basically plated, but they call it something more sophisticated, molecular-fused!!

Tim

http://www.chuckhawks.com/federal_fusion_ammo.htm

http://www.fusionammo.com/home.html

[OR-E-Gun Bill]

I'm not a Metalurgist but doesn't this kinda sound similar in theory:

The UNI-COR® Story

The traditional way to build a jacketed bullet is to make a jacket and a core--two pieces, count 'em--and then press them together. Some terrific bullets result, but there are times when this type of construction can lead to those two pieces parting company. That's a core-jacket separation — the leading cause of bullet failures.

SPEER® looked at ways to tackle this problem and came up with UNI-COR. We start with a swaged (cold-formed) lead core and then build a pure copper jacket with chemical electro-plating literally one molecule at a time. This isn't a thin "flash" of copper — it creates a true jacket, between .007" and .030" thick depending on the use of the bullet. The result is a bullet with true, bonded core construction and an incredibly concentric jacket. Yes, it takes time, but we think it's worth it to provide our customers with the best bullets.


 source:  http://www.speer-bullets.com/default.asp?s1=3&s2=7

Just asking and appreciate clarification.

Bill

[quickdtoo]

Except the only Uni-cors Speer makes are pistol bullets, and the 300gr .458" for the 45-70, they don't offer it in any other rifle calibers.

Tim

[OR-E-Gun Bill]

I thought a pistol bullet (357) was what "singleVI" was interested in.


Bill

[quickdtoo]

Then he should check out Berry's bullets as well, as they're plated bullets too.

Tim

http://speer-bullets.com/ballistics/bullets.aspx

http://www.berrysmfg.com/categories/13-0.php

[quickdtoo]

I was just reading the FAQs at Berry's, their bullets have thin plating, .0035" to .008" thick, they recommend medium velocities, no hot loads. In that respect, the Speers Uni-cor would be the better choice for hunting. ,
 
I have some of their 350gr .458" bullets for my 45-70s, but haven't shot them yet. $28 for 150 bullets is pretty cheap for 45-70 bullets, the .357" .158gr are $18 or $19 for 250 at Cabelas, Berry's sells em even cheaper for 1000.

Tim

[singleVI]

So SPEER Uni-Cores are pretty similar to the Fusions eh? Which would be better, the Uni-Cores or a 158g Hornady XTP?

[Georgen71]

It is all just electro-plating, Speer has been doing that with their Gold Dot bullets for a long time. I hunt with my .357 and the Gold Dots I recover retain more weight than the XTP, sometimes the XTP's jackets come off, not the Gold Dot jackets. I always load the 158 grain but am curious about the 170 grain Gold Dot, has anyone hunted with that yet? Geo.