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Offline kennisondan

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Linebuagh toelrances
« on: May 29, 2007, 07:04:07 PM »
Veral : think I need to slug the bore of my soon to arrive linebaugh 45 colt ? I was advised to use 451 sized bullets.
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Re: Linebuagh toelrances
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2007, 10:53:50 PM »
as you know ive had alot of johns guns. Some are chambered on the tight side but you can be about assured that whatever one chamber will be the rest will be too. What i would do is seen if a sized 452 will push through the chamber with finger pressure and go from there. Also before you load up a thousand rounds for it make sure you try a loaded round to make sure it chambers easily. Some of my linebaughs were so tight that there crimp sensitive and also some bullet designs especailly ones that have a large first driving band may give you fits chambering. It isnt just johns guns just about every custom gun makers guns will give you fits. Ask 2 dogs about his new clements gun. Tight is good if you have the loading skills to take advantage of it and to ajust your loads for it.
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Re: Linebuagh toelrances
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2007, 02:29:36 PM »
So, is it correct that a long flat nose will have a smaller first driving band ?  should I try to buy a sampler pack of different 452 and 451 bullets in the 250 or 260 grain variety ? I want to take advantage of the domensions of the gun... the prior owner suggested I use .451 he has had the gun and used it for 12 years, all with one load, of which he and a friend made 500... he will share that recipe, but I want to get started right and he is not a handloader, per se.
decided not to go with 300 grainers, just the 250 hard cast in all likelihood. and not past 1100 fps..
so what is working for you guys ?
or what is not working ?
how can you tell the drive band is going to prohibit chambering until you do it...when you ran into that problem, did you reduce COALength or change projectiles to remedy it ? do u use the suggested Over all length or do you adjust that in the linebaughs and other guns that are tight ?
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Re: Linebuagh toelrances
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2007, 12:20:40 PM »
    My advise is, no matter who made the gun, measure it.
    Make sure your bullets will slip through the cylinder throats easily and all rounds will chamber properly.  However, many cylinder throats are tapered at the origin enough that a larger bullet will chamber freely, in which case the larger size should be used.  However, to be sure some rounds won't hold the ctg rims off the cylinder, seat a trial load with the oversize bullet out about 1/32 inch.  If the rims drop against the cylinder in every hole, load with the bullet seated to crimp in the groove and you'll get good safe results.

   Never seat heavy revolver loads where the bullets cannot be crimped in a groove.   Bullets can pull and hang up the cylinder.  In other words don't adjust seating depth outside the crimp for HEAVY loads but seat them deeper if you wish to make them chamber easily if the load is light enough that bullet pull from recoil doesn't move the bullets.  Seating deep can make VERY pleasant light loads, and the deep seated rounds will be easily identified from heavy loads.  Pressures will go up with any given load, and dramatically if bullets are seated a lot deeper, and jump to the rifling will be long and far more severe than if seated out, but if accuracy is good, the muzzle blast will be considerable less than when seated out.   

   Since the fellow you bought the gun from isn't a re-loader he quite possibly his 451 bullet size advise will probably not be as accurate as measuring the gun.  Especially after 12 years of use.  Cylinder throats do wear a little from powder erosion, but the barrel forcing cone gets 5 or 6 times as much wear, depending on how many holes the cylinder has.
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Re: Linebuagh toelrances
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2007, 06:28:36 PM »
thanks again.. Yeah..I will measure the cylinders with slugs as per suggestions... I will surely shoot a few cowboy loads just to get aquainted, before I settle in to business.
Looking forward to more and more good times and thanking you for your help .. all :
dk