Muzzle Brakes

[calling4life]

This may be my first post here. 
To the point:  Been looking at getting a 4570, not sure which of the lever models yet.  But planning on running some of the Garrett 540gr hammerhead ammo through it, amongst others.  No I don't reload, have no idea how to do it either, so that is out of the question.

You hear so much about recoil being a problem, so, can you get muzzle brakes for these guns???

I understand it will increase volume, and that is fine.  I also understand I could handle shooting the gun without the brake, but, I want to want to shoot this gun. (if that makes sense)  Want to pound quite a few rounds through it at practice settings, a brake will just make it that much more user friendly.

Not much of a rifle shooter, so I turn to you gents.  Do I need a break like something you see hanging off the end of the 50BMG, and where could I get that.  Or is it a simpler task?

I appreciate any advice/opinions.

[Keith L]

Some models come from the factory with a brake, and it is personal preference whether the shooters like them or not.  One of my guns has a break and in my opinion it isn't necessary, but the original owner thought it was.  And the noise is much worse for those around you like other shooters at the range to the point where you may be shooting alone often if you are taking the gun with the brake.  And if you hunt with it plan on hearing protection even when hunting.  I have some electronic muffs that I use that shut off the noise, but allow me to hear game.

See if you can find someone with a gun like you are thinking about with and without brakes and see if they will let you shoot them.  That is the only way I know of that you can really know.

[calling4life]

The garrett 50 cal sniper gun with their muzzle brake on it.  You have to assume they researched and made the best possible muzzle brake they could come up with right?  The bigger side chambers for gas to escape quickly, now looking at this I would think it would allow gas to escape quicker then say... the muzzle breaks with a lot of little ports.  Barrett made it to tame a gun used to take out vehicles, so I guess I put a little more faith in their design.

Is it safe to assume that their design would be a top choice for a muzzle break?  Where would you get something like that for a gun???

Now I ask because I do not know, but if you are going to do something, doing it right would be wise in my opinion. 

I do plan on shooting alone quite a bit, it is something that allows me to relax, blow off some stress, and enjoy time outside.  So I don't think the volume is something I have to worry about.  I have read they reduce kick drastically, and that is really what I am aiming for, just to keep shooting this gun as enjoyable as possible.

Again, I thank you for your responses.

[GatCat]

First off, IMHO, if you are going to have a break installed, you would be best served by starting with the longer barrel version to begin with, rather then the "Guide Gun" version, get the noise a bit farther from your ears.
You could simply send it out to mag-na-port, and have them do their thing. Not really noticable, no change in ballance, etc.
You could have the muzzle tapped for any of many add-on brakes, which is a nice way to go, so that when you are simply plinking, you can use hearing protectors, then when hunting, without protectors, you could remove the brake, install a thread protector, and be good to go, without the extra noise ( you'd need to re-zero the rifle ).
I don't think a brake shaped like the ones used on the .50's would be suited for your needs, they are obviously made specificlly for the nuances of the big .50 . Something more along the lines of what some folks put on .458's, .460 Weatherby, etc. would be what you would want. The brake maker, and the gunsmith who installs it, would have the best advice.
Mark

[Ranger J]

Forget about the break.  You would probably be better served with having a good recoil pad installed and the use of a shoulder pad.  Actually there is little that the 45/70 loaded to trapdoor levels will not kill and at least in my case I am a lot more likely to place a trapdoor or Marlin load on target than I am a heavy load.  What are you planning to hunt with this gun?  I love my 45/70s but I have no wish to punish myself with them.  Unless there is a rhino escaped from the zoo or other than just to prove how much punishment a person can take I don't see much use with anything above a 405gr Marlin load.  Just my opinion.

RJ 

[calling4life]

The majority of my shooting would be done with the lighter loads, but practicing and making notes of what the big boy cartridges will do, and how they shoot is in the plans as well.

Definitely adding a limbsaver recoil pad on it, just figured this would be another addition to make the rifle as comfortable as possible to shoot. 

No shooting of escaped rhinos, just farmer's horses and cows (kidding of course)

The threading idea is intriguing to me, I'll have to check that out further.  Again, I appreciate the help and thank you for it.

[calling4life]

Another question to add on this.

Is it possible to get different levers on these guns???  If I remember correctly, getting your hands in that lever with a good sized winter glove on would be tough.  Operating in bare handed wasn't comfortable either.  I've seen these cowboy action guys shoot some lever guns with levers that look like you could fit a grapefruit through them.

So, how would one go about getting a different lever thrown on there, and what would be a good one to go with for speed of cycling, smoothness, and something a little bigger for those cold cold days???

Again, I thank you for any answers given, really planning on making this a "mutt" gun, do it all, always have it by my side type of gun.

[GatCat]

Aftermarket lever with larger loops are readilly available from several different makers. The lever is very easilly removed to allow the bolt to come out, for cleaning from the breach end. Replacement lever should be a direct replacement. Check Brownells catalog.
Mark

[calling4life]

Thank you sir
 
I would also like to know which of the Marlin leverguns you guys recommend.  I am planning on keeping this an iron sight shooter, don't want to put a scope on it.  But I am still looking to shoot 100 yards with it, so would it be wise to go with the longer barreled models??? 

Any advice you can shoot me on this would help, is it going to help with maintenance and upkeep to go with stainless etc...

[calling4life]

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Do any of you guys shoot this ammo???  Any advice on how it shoots, I am thinking this will be my "plinker" round, for days when i want to go shoot some paper, scouting trips where a coyote/raccoon or other predators may show their face.