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Offline singleVI

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Tell me about 3030 Handi
« on: June 20, 2007, 11:54:15 AM »
Been thinkin about getting a Handi-Rifle in .30-30. What are some positives/negatives about this rifle? What are the Iron Sights like? Is the trigger pull any good? How about accuracy? thanks

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Re: Tell me about 3030 Handi
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2007, 01:56:45 PM »
They are tremendous.  You really have to "roll your own" to get the true benefits of the 30-30 though.  THere are so many different bullets out there and all the possibilities.  Mine is very accurate.  One of my best.  Go for it!

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Re: Tell me about 3030 Handi
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2007, 03:15:22 PM »
I'm working on mine right now.
First time out with open sights I got a .856 inch 5 shot group at 50yds with my stand by cast load.
I like it.
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Re: Tell me about 3030 Handi
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2007, 03:31:37 PM »
Iron sights are "okay", aperture sights better, low power scope (if your eyes are wearing out like mine) are best.

Trigger pull is subjective and varies from frame to frame. Currently I have two 30/30s, a 357 Max, a 45LC and two 22 Sportsters... all the triggers are different. The trigger in the frame with the 357 max has been "tweaked" (see FAQs for trigger tweaking info), and so has one of the Sportsters. Those two have awesome triggers. The others are quite acceptable and I don't plan to spend any time tweaking them. And none of them has needed any forend "tweaking".

Accuracy on all of mine is perfectly acceptable for hunting. And as of yesterday, since I took all the centerfires to the range yesterday, the 357 Max appears to be the most accurate (with some 180 gr handloads) and the two 30/30s are neck-and-neck with factory Federal 150 gr Power Shok rounds. The 45LC was bordering on disappointing, but I only had a bit of ammo to try, so I am not giving up on it quite yet.

I might point out, that yesterday's shooting was done with a WGRS aperture sight on the NEF (modern) 30/30 and the Topper was wearing an old Weaver 3x scope - and the group sizes were so close to identical that I didn't bother measuring. So I guess it is theoretically possible that the 1995 NEF with a scope might shoot tighter groups than the old 1972 Topper... I dunno, and truthfully I don't care... The Topper weighs in about 1 lb lighter than the NEF and it is the Topper I plan to be packing around in the field this fall, and I am willing to accept hunting accuracy from it.

I've had several 30/30s Handis and Toppers over a 25 yr period and all of them have had from acceptable to excellent accuracy without tweaking and with factory or hand loads. And I don't recall anyone on this forum ever complaining about the accuracy of a 30/30 - someone may have, but I don't recall it.

So my experience suggests that "tweaking" a Handi trigger (whatever the caliber), and/or the forend (as wcf3030 says) can help accuracy, rolling your own handloads can do the same; and even if you do nothing but take it out of the box and clean the manufacturing gunk out of it, a 30/30 is very likely going give acceptable accuracy ... and the potential for amazing accuracy lives in the "tweaking" and ammo.

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Re: Tell me about 3030 Handi
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2007, 04:05:34 PM »
I dont think Ill put a scope on it, tell me more about the Aperture sights. I do handloadand have all the dies/info.

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Re: Tell me about 3030 Handi
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2007, 04:22:01 PM »
There's a bunch of info about apertures in the FAQs and this link to a previous thread: http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums//index.php/topic,64605.0.html has some great info and pics. Also my website http://www.handiholic.com/Show%20and%20Tell.html has a pic or two of Handis with apertures.

And FYI below is a pic of the Topper I mentioned, fitted with the Weaver 3x scope, and a mannlicher forend (which needs some re-finishing).

 

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Re: Tell me about 3030 Handi
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2007, 04:33:36 PM »
NEF/H&R sells Wiliams sights at a great price. The WGRS goes for about 18.95, the FPS (my preference) goes for 59.95. I don't know which sight blade comes standard on the 30-30, but it's been my experience that the Williams aperture sights require a high front sight blade. If you order a sight from NEF you should order a high front sight at the same time.
I've got a Handi 45-70 and I'm in the process of making a shim for the front sight. I'm shooting llooww velocity loads and don't have enough sight adjustment, all is good if I shoot standard velocity loads.
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Re: Tell me about 3030 Handi
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2007, 05:07:06 AM »
Glad to follow this thread--I ordered a .30-30 Handi yesterday!

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Re: Tell me about 3030 Handi
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2007, 09:32:18 AM »
Lucky you Dusty, I just cant decide on the Handi or a new Motorcycle helmet.