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Offline WayneS

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Recomodations for 7 TCU in a T/C
« on: February 03, 2009, 12:13:42 PM »
Looking for recomodations for a bullet in the 140-150 gn range to be used in IHMSA matches. I would like to keep the speed around 1300-1400 fps,would consider a FB but need no more than 1.5 MOA

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Re: Recomodations for 7 TCU in a T/C
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 05:56:59 PM »
  I disagree with you completely but needing only 1.5 MOA.  We all need the tightest accuracy possible, because whatever scatter the rifle has will be added to our wobbles.  It they all hit in a stack, you only hve your own wobbles to blame for losing a match. --  So when I make my customers a mold, this is how I think and work as I take the chamber / throat dimensions and fit the bullet.

  To get the best, make a throat slug, using our pure lead slugs made for that purpose.  Also, get a pack of push through slugs and feel out the barrel.  The slugs will tell you how to proceed, but lapping will almost certainly be in order.

  I killed a nice 3 point bull elk with a 7TCU  in a contender carbine, which was my wifes gun.  When the two bulls she was after ran up the mountain, she handed me the little plinky thing and said 'Go get one!"
  When I got to the top of the mountain they were both grazing, and I took the 3X3 because I thought he would be better eating than the 6X6 beside him.  They both looked the same size though so I probably should have taken the rack.  But they don't cook up tender enough for me and I prefer to leave good breeding stock more than hang big horns on the wall.  -- Interested in the load?  A 130 gr LFN with softnose, over enough H335 to push it along at 2450 fps.  The bullet broke his sholder going in, then his spine and exited the point of his off shoulder muscle.  I knew it was capable of performing as I did my homework on making up the load.  My wife would have been carrying some other gun if I were not sure of it's capabilities.
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Re: Recomodations for 7 TCU in a T/C
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 02:51:26 AM »
  I disagree with you completely but needing only 1.5 MOA.  We all need the tightest accuracy possible, because whatever scatter the rifle has will be added to our wobbles.  It they all hit in a stack, you only hve your own wobbles to blame for losing a match. --  So when I make my customers a mold, this is how I think and work as I take the chamber / throat dimensions and fit the bullet.

  To get the best, make a throat slug, using our pure lead slugs made for that purpose.  Also, get a pack of push through slugs and feel out the barrel.  The slugs will tell you how to proceed, but lapping will almost certainly be in order.

 
Sir, Thank you, I should have been more specific, i should have said <less than 1.5 MOA, and I agree, if I know the piece will shoot MOA from the bags then I know it ALL up to me.
The main point is which design will come the closest to meeting this goal given the limitations I have .
This bullet will be shot from a 14" bbl equiped with a 6x 20 power rifle scope on a 3" rise mount, it will be shot standing thus the limited  bullet speed and weight to limit recoil.
I have two molds that throw bullets in that weight range, let me see what I can get these to do out to 165 yds [150 meters} then I'll see about fine tuning with your molds

Thank you for your time and considerations

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Re: Recomodations for 7 TCU in a T/C
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 03:53:06 PM »
  Sorry I didn't answer the real question.  Which bullet is best.
  A spitzer will be slightly more accurate, and a maybe should be in that sentence somewhere.
  A flatnose will hit steel the hardest, because it stacks it's energy better, whereas a pointed bullet tends to split as the steel pushes its point back into the bullet.  Not the most technical way to explain it, but the important part is flat hits steel hardest at a given velocity, with given alloy hardness.
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