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Re: is there any where
« Reply #60 on: July 06, 2007, 03:31:40 PM »
tgs. Instead of trespassing again, ya oughta be checking out the high ground for them bigfeet, unless yours have gills. POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: is there any where
« Reply #61 on: July 06, 2007, 05:45:53 PM »
tgs. Instead of trespassing again, ya oughta be checking out the high ground for them bigfeet, unless yours have gills. POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Ah shucks, Powder you know I wouldn't do something like that especially on someones property that says they take "sound shots".

On a more somber note, the 42K+ oil spill from the refinery upstream in Coffeyville, Kansas has reached the lake with ODWC officials saying there's a good possibility a huge fish/spawn kill could occur with it taking years to fully assess the total environmental damage this will cause.  Our work on the north end of the reservoir has needless to say been brought to a standstill for the time being.  The west side of the lower part of the reservoir does have some high (bluffs) ground and we've already begun to work that area over.

Maybe BM will want copies of the pics I took?
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Re: is there any where
« Reply #62 on: July 09, 2007, 12:57:36 PM »
Blackfoot.Most of the tribes here hate each other with a Passion,its funny to me,they all bi*** about white racism but they hate other tribes.Im no more welcome on the res than any other white man,if you dont look Indian and drive a rez rocket you dont fit in!That other snake is a corn snake i think,idk...

Yeah.  The tribes here in Oklahoma aren't too passionate about not liking members of other tribes, but there is some bias.  The Creeks, Choctaws, Chickasaws, and Seminoles are all basically the same people with the same or very similar languages.  And there has been substantial mixing.  (My adopted son has a Chickasaw card through his daddy, but his mother carried some degree of Cherokee blood.  His card indicates that he is 1/16th Chick.  If my great-great-grandmother was a full blood, which is something I'm not sure of, I'm 1/16th Cherokee.)  The Cherokees sometimes show some bias: I had one young Cherokee man tell me once that, although white men could learn to speak Cherokee, other Indians could not--which I doubt very much to be the truth!

Back in the early 1960's, when I was dispatcher for the Okmulgee, Oklahoma, police department, the government brought a bunch of Navajos and Apaches from their reservations to the technical school at Okmulgee.  They would come to town on Friday and Saturday night and mix it up with the local Creeks and Choctaws and Seminoles.  We would have to pen them up over night.

Just recently, the Cherokees attempted to throw their Freedmen out of the tribe.  Freedmen are the descendants of slaves that belonged to Cherokees.  (The tribes that were moved from the southern states to Oklahoma are often referred to as "the five civilized tribes."  And, depending on your definition of "civilized," they were.  Some had plantations and slaves.  They were moved to Oklahoma, not because they were going on the war path and scalping whites, but because they had land their white neighbors wanted.  They took their case to the Supreme Court, and the court ruled that their removal was illegal.  I think it was Andrew Jackson, an old Indian fighter, who, as president, stated, "John Marshall [chief justice] has made his decision.  Let him enfore it!" And the five tribes were removed to Oklahoma in spite of the Supreme Court.) Many of the black Cherokees have more Cherokee blood than the white Cherokees--like me.  And I've known blacks that were "not pround" of their Cherokee ancestry.

I believe that the last Indian vs. Indian war in Oklahoma was between the Cherokees and the Osages.  When I was editor of the Claremore Progress a few years back, I was told about a county farmer who regularly plowed up relics--like old rife barrells--where the last battle was pitched.  And many Cherokees and Osages still have no use for each other.

This conversation has departed a long way from Bulletmaker's picture, the Spencer Creek Image.  Check my site out:  www.gbofreeforums.info/Raysplace.  You might want to make a post there. 
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Re: is there any where
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2007, 07:47:50 AM »
Hey Nonya,

Filled a perscription for something having to do with old age the other day, and the young lady who waited on me was obviously Native American.  I struck up a conversation--I've not too old to TALK to pretty Indian girls--and she told me that she was Blackfoot.  Don't run across many Blackfoot Indians in Oklahoma.  I believe she said that her family was from Washington--the state.

This doesn't have anything to do with Big Feet, but....
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Re: is there any where
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2007, 08:01:33 AM »
Let me throw out a question about Bulletmaker's picture/the Spencer Creek Image supplied to us by Graybeard near the beginning of this thread--page 1.

Look at a spot on the picture approximately one inch from the top and two inches from the right side.
Do you see what I see?  Do you see something that LOOKS LIKE the face of a baby primate?  I'm not saying that it is the face of a baby Big Foot, but it does LOOK LIKE one!  If it isn't a face, what is it?  What's your opinion?
 
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Re: is there any where
« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2007, 04:50:05 PM »
Let me throw out a question about Bulletmaker's picture/the Spencer Creek Image supplied to us by Graybeard near the beginning of this thread--page 1.

Look at a spot on the picture approximately one inch from the top and two inches from the right side.
Do you see what I see?  Do you see something that LOOKS LIKE the face of a baby primate?  I'm not saying that it is the face of a baby Big Foot, but it does LOOK LIKE one!  If it isn't a face, what is it?  What's your opinion?
 

My "opinion" is that horse has been dead for so long that only it's bones remain and nothing of relevance can be derived from further discussion of said photograph.  ::)
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