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An American traitor
« on: March 12, 2007, 10:53:23 AM »
       A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
>       KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
>
>       This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
>       Not remember, and didn't have to bear the
>       Burden that our fathers, mothers and older
>       Brothers and sisters had to bear.
>
>       Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
>       "100 Women of the Century."
>
>       BY BARBARA WALTERS
>
>       Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
>       Countless others have never known how Ms.
>       Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
>       But specific men who served and sacrificed
>       During Vietnam . 
>
>       The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot
>
>       The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.
>
>       In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
>       Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison 
>       The "Hanoi Hilton."
>
>       Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
>       Cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
>       Ordered to describe for a visiting American
>       "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
>       Treatment" he'd received.
>
>       He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
>       Dragged away.
>       During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
>       On to the camp Commandant 'S feet, which   
>       Sent that officer berserk.
>
>       In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
>       Double vision (which permanently ended his
>       Flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
>       Application of a wooden baton.
>
>       From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
>       47FW/DO (F-4E's).  He spent 6 years in the
>       "Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his
>       Family only knew he was "missing in action".
>       His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
>       His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
>       Clothed routine in preparation for a           
>       "peace delegation" visit.
>       They, however, had time and devised a plan to
>       Get word to the world that they were alive     
>       And still survived.  Each man secreted a tiny
>       Piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
>       On it, i n the palm of his hand.
>
>       When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
>       Cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
>       man's hand and asking little encouraging
>       Snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
>       Babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
>       Treatment from your benevolent captors?"
>       Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
>       Palmed her their sliver of paper.
>       She took them all without missing a beat.  At the
>       End of the line and once the camera stopped
>       Rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
>       She turned to the officer in charge and handed
>       Him all the little pieces of paper.
>
>       Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
>       Colonel Carrigan was almost number four     
>       But he survived, which is the only reason we
>       Know of her actions that day.
>
>       I was a civilian economic development advisor
>       In Vietnam , and was captured by the North
>       Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
>       1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
>
>       I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
>       Year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year         
>       In a "black box" in Hanoi
>       My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
>       Poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
>       Nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
>       Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the
>       Cambodian border.
>       At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs
>
>       We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
>
>       When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by
>       The camp communist political officer if I would
>       Be willing to meet with her.
>
>       I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
>       Treatment we POWs received... And how
>       Different it was from the treatment purported by
>       The North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
>       "humane and lenient."
>
>       Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
>       Floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
>       With a large steel weights placed on my hands,
>       And beaten with a bamboo cane.
>
>       I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
>       Soon after I was released.  I asked her               
>       If she would be willing to debate me on TV. 
>       She never did answer me.
>
>       These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
>       Someone who should be honored as part         
>       Of "100 Years of Great Women."
>       Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
>       should never include a traitor whose hands are
>       covered with the blood of so many patriots.
>
>       There are few things I have strong visceral
>       reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
>       blatant treason, is one of them.
>       Please take the time to forward to as many
>       people as you possibly can.
>       It will eventually end up on her computer and
>       she needs to know that we will never forget.
>       RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
>       716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
>       Maintenance
>       DSN: 875-6431
>       COMM: 883-6343 
>

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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2007, 04:27:01 AM »
  Ron;

  It is hard to believe that this has been up since March 12 and you have had no replies yet. Perhaps like myself, they just didn't tune into this "today's important news" board recently...
   
   In any case, thank each serviceman for their service and yes.. it is tragic that such a traitor can be "honored". "Wawa" Walters knows better...she must be  just playing stupid..

   She deserves not honor but everlasting shame, if not imprisonment ! Perhaps people are just getting weary of hearing about these type traitors, whom nothing is done about..
  But then, forgetfulness is just what traitors rely upon to keep up their nefarious actions..
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2007, 01:46:11 PM »
This story makes me want to vomit.


She should have been lined up against a wall and shot many years ago.
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2007, 09:36:17 AM »
While my older brother fought and suffered in 'nam, Hanoi Jane was consorting with the enemy. Her treasonous behavior is unforgivable... And contrary to a popular misconception, Henry Fonda fully supported his daughter's unacceptable fraternization with the North Vietnamese.

Even though it is my personal belief that the Vietnam war was an expensive tragedy that should never have occurred, I am not a commie sympathizer. And I would never consort with the enemy of my nation under any circumstances.
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2007, 01:47:04 PM »
   TM7

   Her so called "apologies" would ring just a trifle truer...if she were not starting down the same old "traitor trail"...AGAIN...!!
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2007, 01:54:42 PM »
  Let's face it..Hanoi Jane simply hates the USA !

  She chose to maker a fictional movie about a USA nuclear reactor going critical, having a meltdown and killing thousands (or millions..I refused to buy a ticket).. of people.
  She called the movie " The China Syndrome"..pretending that a meltdown here would bore into the earth toward China.

   She excoriated the USA for even having nuclear reactors..we were playing reckless with innocent lives !

     When her "comrades" in the  now defunct Soviet Union actually had a meltdown at Chernobyl..killing thousands of Ukranians..not a peep from Hanoi Jane...!!!...LOL 
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2007, 04:16:26 AM »
  Let's face it..Hanoi Jane simply hates the USA !

  She chose to maker a fictional movie about a USA nuclear reactor going critical, having a meltdown and killing thousands (or millions..I refused to buy a ticket).. of people.
  She called the movie " The China Syndrome"..pretending that a meltdown here would bore into the earth toward China.

   She excoriated the USA for even having nuclear reactors..we were playing reckless with innocent lives !

     When her "comrades" in the  now defunct Soviet Union actually had a meltdown at Chernobyl..killing thousands of Ukranians..not a peep from Hanoi Jane...!!!...LOL 

There are currently 65 nuclear power plants in 31 states operating 103 reactors, which generate around 20% of the electricity in America. Aside from the highly sensationalized media coverage surrounding the Three Mile Island incident - which hardly consituted a disaster - we haven't started glowing in the dark yet. This kind of alarmist activity is typical of the feel-good, environmental whacko bunch.
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2007, 05:14:29 AM »
I also refuse to see any movie with Jane Fonda in it.

A while back, maybe a couple of years now. In Chicago a guy won a chance to throw a baseball for a large amount of money if he threw a strike. If he missed he would still get some cash. A local radio jock was talking to him before the event and the guy told him she would be in the crowd. The dj said he should take the lesser amount and bean her with the ball.    ;D
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2007, 04:57:01 AM »
TM how can trying to normalize relations with a country we were once at war with, be considered the same as giving aid and comfort to our enemy in a time of war?
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2007, 05:24:54 AM »
I agree, there is a big difference between trying to mend relations with a former enemy, after 35 years, and handing prisoner of war notes right to the enemy soldiers that were guarding them while the conflict was actually taking place.

I think it's kind of ironic. If she would have kept and delivered those notes she would be honored and loved by the vets of this country. As it is she is despised and called a traitor.
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2007, 03:02:54 PM »
 TM;

  It isn't disagreement with me that causes me to consider a person's actions as traitorous..

  What i consider traitorous is .."giving aid and comfort to the enemy"...
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2007, 03:00:13 AM »
Many here have arguably good points however, as bad as Fonda was and is in the wrong, the victims in Viet Nam were and are the American vets, their families, and the people of Viet Nam. The U.S. government has long since been found out to be in err concerning the war, and had LBJ responded to what he had knowledge of during his tenure as president, the casualty list would have been cut in half. This is recorded historical fact. So with this in mind, is LBJ not also a traitor on a scale much larger than a loud mouthed, un-informed peace nik, whom had a father that was not only a veteran, but a pretty good actor.
An important point has been made and ignored here. When GW was in Viet Nam recently why did he not offer to do business with them on an economic basis, AFTER this MIA issue is settled? The answer is obvious to an open mind. It is money. One can be a patriot and still criticize obvious greed by the government and corporate America. After all one is patriotic to ones country, not some clown whom has waved his mighty hand and sent others off to war, but refused to fight himself.
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Re: An American traitor
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2007, 06:32:23 AM »
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