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Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
« on: September 20, 2007, 09:09:56 AM »


POLICE STATE, USA
Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
Travelers outraged by private research group's request

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Posted: September 20, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern



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Motorists in Colorado are expressing outrage over a weekend stunt in Gilpin County, about an hour's drive west of Denver, where highway checkpoints were set up so a private organization could ask for samples of blood and saliva.

"I don't think they're authorized to do what they're doing, and I view it as a gross violation of law-enforcement protocol," Roberto Sequeira, 51, told reporters for the Denver Post.

He said he and his wife were "detained" for about 15 minutes even after they protested they wanted to get home because of a sleepy child in their car.

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Sheriff's officials were apologizing after they helped set up and run five separate checkpoints over the weekend.

They said workers for the Institute for Research and Evaluation were overly persistent in their demands of innocent travelers.

"It was like a telemarketer that you couldn't hang up on," Undersheriff John Bayne told the newspaper.

Sgt. Bob Enney said the deputies' assistance to the organization involved stopping motorists at the sites along Colorado Highway 119 for "surveys" on any drug or alcohol use. Surveyors also requested that motorists submit to breath, blood and saliva tests.

Enney said several hundred motorists were tested, and some later complained.

Sequeira said he repeatedly asked if the questioners were law enforcement officials and said he was not interested in participating in the study, but still was not given clearance to leave.

He told the newspaper that he and his family were approached by two researchers, and even after his repeated refusals, officials offered his wife, who was driving, $100 to get the couple to take part in a breath test.

"I think it's very dangerous," he told the newspaper. "Sometimes at checkpoints, unfortunate things happen."

PIRE spokeswoman Michelle Blackston told WND the deputies "did not stop" any drivers. "It was a voluntary survey. … Nobody approached them. There were signs saying that a survey was taking place. Nobody waved them down."

She said she was unaware whether the private organization reimbursed the county for the expense of having the deputies at the traffic sites. The organization's own researchers get the results of the work, she said.

Also to the newspaper, PIRE officials defended their actions. They said such statistics are important to gauge the impact of laws and enforcement policy. Their questions began over the summer and will continue at other locations around the nation through November, they said.

"We've been literally surveying thousands of people," John Lacey, of the Alcohol, Policy and Safety Research Center, said. It's through that organization PIRE is doing its research.

He said researchers push a few of those who initially refuse to participate to reconsider – even offering incentives.

"If we don't do that, the criticism will come out that we had so many who were refusers," Lacey told the newspaper.

Bayne said a similar study was done in the county several years ago, with no complaints, but he admitted last weekend's effort was aggressive.

"The people were too persistent," he told the Post. "Some people didn't feel it was voluntary."

Officials with the Colorado chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union said the fact that sheriff's deputies were on the scene, and surveyors wore blue jumpsuits, could have confused drivers.

Sequeira said his family was directed by sheriff's officials to pull over and he and his wife were greeted by "youthful, college" surveyors.

"We had a 10-year-old in the back who's tired, we tell them thanks but no thanks, we have to get this child back home to bed," he told the paper. But the workers persisted, telling them they would be provided help driving home if needed. Then they offered the $100.

"We say, 'No thank you, we have to get our child home,'" he recalled. "At this point, both clones start chortling at us and ridiculing us."

On a newspaper forum, the opinion was running fairly close to unison:

"The very act of pulling a motorist over subjects him/her and their vehicle (at very least) to a visual search. This means if the motorist was pulled over without suspicion of violating a law, than (sic) they have been subjected to an unlawful search…," wrote Warren Gregory.

"For the record the proper response to ANY such incursion into privacy is to ask the question, Am I under Arrest? If the answer is no ask if you are free to go. If you are told no demand to be arrested or you will leave and then leave," added Frank Vicek.


 

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Re: Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2007, 11:47:47 AM »
Too much of this kind of crap is going on in the USA.  i hope that some town or city police department is sued to the high heavens over this kind of crap.   The cops allow themselves to be jerked around by some special interest outfit. 

A prosecutor in TX has refused to prosecute a bunch of sickos who responded to the "Catch a Predator Show."   The city manager authorized the thing.   The cops did the bidding of the producer and his lackeys.  Now i am all for putting child predators in jail.  But the police should allow themselves to be jerked around by civilians. 


"MSNBC.com is reporting that the "To Catch A Predator" series has taken a major hit in Texas. Officials in conjunction with NBC and Dateline were working together to catch pedophiles in Murphy, Texas. The day that they set up their sting operation they had 25 visitors to the home they were using for filming of the hit NBC Dateline series."

he MSNBC report says that the City Manager named Craig Sherwood had not informed the Mayor of Murphy or the Town Council of his decision to allow the filming in the town. In his defense Sherwood has said that secrecy was a necessity in order for the operation to work the way that it was intended. On the other side of this very interesting turn of events, the crew actually had a man that was an Assistant DA in a neighboring town in Kauffman County named Louis Conradt Jr., before the decision was made not to prosecute the men that came to the sting house that day was made, authorities went to arrest Conradt at his home. Conradt ended up committing suicide when the police knocked on his door, by shooting himself. Dateline was in the street when authorities moved in for the arrest.

Patricia Conradt is the sister of Louis Conradt Jr. and told City Council members in Murphy that Dateline and Police tried to act as though they were "a judge, jury and executioner that was encouraged by an out-of-control reality show."

MSNBC is reporting that the sting had taken place November and had been held in the house for a four day period. Twenty-four men visited the sting house over those 4 days, there were other individuals that had spoken with the people who were undercover for Perverted Justice but do not show up at the home.

The main reason according to the report from MSNBC that Prosecutor John Roach has decided not to prosecute the men involved is due to "16 of the cases, he had no jurisdiction, since neither the suspects nor the decoys were in the county during the online chats." He also said that the remaining individuals could not be proven that the "chat logs were authentic and complete." Roach continued with saying "The fact that somebody besides police officers were involved is what makes this case bad. If professionals had been running the show, they would have done a much better job rather than being at the beck and call of outsiders.""


 

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Re: Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 02:45:33 AM »
maybe along the same line ( a training process if you will ) the schools in Chesterfield Va. ask the students to sign a paper stating they would not touch , or use a firearm in any way ! My kids refused to sign , My oldest son was sent to office , he and a group of others said they hunted so they were released back to class , my daughter got to bring it home so i sent it back with a message to teach reading , writing and math and such that my wife and i would take care of the rest !and if they needed to pull someone in the office call me and i would be glad to go over it in person ! my youngest son just threw it in file 13 !
now i see the problem in Va. is they train these kids to follow like sheep !
Also they stop us and get travel information , IE: where are you going , why bus.or pleasure how long will you stay etc.etc.etc. ! i always make up something , i can still change my mind ! they tell you its the law and you must ansewer !
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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Re: Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 04:26:06 AM »
TM7-----sounds like a conspiracy to me !!!  I suspect that things will get a lot better when Hillary is in the White house with Obama as her VP...Can't wait for that "FREE" medical care, welfare increase, free college for aliens, tax increase, tear down the military and more stains on blue dresses....ho ho ho ;D

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Re: Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2007, 05:46:02 AM »
By law, all a driver has to provide at any traffic stop is driver's license, and possibly proof of insurance and vehicle registration.  You are not obligated, by law, to provide any additional information.

Of course, some gun-ho LEO may detain you, or even arrest you for not answering their questions, but you do not have to reveal "where are you coming from,"  "where are you going," "how much have you had to drink," "can I search your vehicle?", etc.  failure to answer may cause them to arrest you, but they must establish "probable cause." 

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Re: Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 06:15:57 AM »
That may be true in most states , or all but no one wants to be the one to buck the system anymore !
my kids were at the outer banks NC a few years ago and coming off the beach they were stopped ! the leo said he could smell pot and wanted to search the truck , i have told my kids to always refuse , which they did so for about an hour and a half the leo detained them and kept walking around the truck sniffing it and the kids ( a dog and pony show ) . my oldest got tired of it and asked if he was under arrest , he was told no so he said i'm leaving then ! the leo said the only reason he didn't search the truck was it would take 30 min to get the SW ! i had a time explaining that to give in was to give up a freedom !they said yea but look at the time it would have saved ! told them an hour or two was cheap many died so you could JUST SAY NO !!!!!!!!!!!!! so many forget freedom was won on the battle field but its preserved in the street every day by all of us !
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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Re: Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 08:00:54 AM »
AMEN!
SHOOTALL
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Re: Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 08:20:12 AM »
 "told them an hour or two was cheap many died so you could JUST SAY NO !!!!!!!!!!!!! so many forget freedom was won on the battle field but its preserved in the street every day by all of us !

Great!!!!  Good post.

       

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Re: Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 08:28:00 AM »
Police state, here we come!!!  Last week, my child actually got a packet sent home from school ... some kinda "ident-a-kid" bullchit....They wanted to take a DNA swab from her mouth and everything!!!
I wrote the teacher back the following note:  "We will not be participating in this ident-a-kid program... this is just another way for Uncle Sam to invade our privacy. What's next, microchips?"  Of course, the brainwashed teacher gave my child a scornful look and shook her head.  Amazing how deeply Americans sleep in our current state of Zionist Jew-induced slumber. 
Sadly, more and more incidents like this are happening everyday.  Our people are slaves in the making... and their only master will be Israel.