garrett +p in a handi ?

[BOOTYMONSTER]

i know garrets site says only the marlin rifiles for the 540's but ive also read about others using them in ruger NO1's and T/C's . anyone ever tried them or seen/read the results with them in the handi's ?

http://www.garrettcartridges.com/q&a.asp

[EsoxLucius]

Any SB2 H&R 45-70 rifle can accommodate the Garrett, Grizzly and Buffalo Bore ammo.

[Graybeard]

But can your shoulder?

I tried some in a really heavy Browning BPCR that must have weighted over 12 pounds and they kicked the snot outta me. I think I fired one group only and considered that more than adequate.

[quickdtoo]

I think the generally short throat of most H&R 45-70s would be a problem, heavy bullet loads that are made for Ruger levels are usually loaded to quite a bit longer overall length than regular lever gun loads. For instance, Hornady shows their 500gr jacketed loads as 2.925", and Lyman uses 2.930" for their 535gr bullet.

Tim

[eskimo36]

If the Garrett is anything like a 700 grain bullet out of a 500 S&W handi  with a max load, then get a lead sled or put a bag of shot between the gun and your shoulder.   That is serious recoil.  More than is fun.

[Ditchdigger]

But can your shoulder?

I tried some in a really heavy Browning BPCR that must have weighted over 12 pounds and they kicked the snot outta me. I think I fired one group only and considered that more than adequate.

If I had been there GB,you would have shot one more shot. You would have shot me rolling on the ground laughing at you.   Digger

[BOOTYMONSTER]

i was asking because i was thinking it would be pretty cool for a $250 gun to be able to be adequately and efficently capable of hunting deer,griz.,buffalo and Africa's big 5 or 6  . a repeater would be better for the dangerous stuff though .

[quickdtoo]

I wouldn't recommend shooting Ruger level loads regularly IF you can stand the recoil, the underlug will likely set back sooner or later as it does with top loads in the 500S&W, then it will require a new barrel or some home improvements.

Tim

[EsoxLucius]

I wouldn't recommend shooting Ruger level loads regularly IF you can stand the recoil, the underlug will likely set back sooner or later as it does with top loads in the 500S&W, then it will require a new barrel or some home improvements.

Tim

Garrett's 45-70 ammo is 35,000 PSI max, the Ruger #1 can handle 50,000 CUP 45-70 loads.  Hence, BOOTYMONSTER is not proposing to use Ruger #1 45-70 maximum loads in the HandiRifle.

[Graybeard]

But can your shoulder?

I tried some in a really heavy Browning BPCR that must have weighted over 12 pounds and they kicked the snot outta me. I think I fired one group only and considered that more than adequate.

If I had been there GB,you would have shot one more shot. You would have shot me rolling on the ground laughing at you.   Digger

I'd have had to shoot you with a handgun Digger cuz my shoulder was hurting too bad fer another shot. I got another cortisone shot in it today so in a few days hopefully I'll be ok for another few months.

[BOOTYMONSTER]

thanks again . i was just kinda thinking out loud so to speak . ill most likely never hunt outside of virginia or at most the mid atlantic states . ive been thinking 30-06 or 308 but i was looking at the 45s at the new gander mountian near me and that big hole at the end of the barrel really made an impression on me  . my funds are very short and the handis get a lot of love on the several forums that ive been to so i figgured they would be a safe buy . right now im kinda %50 handi , %25 savage/stevens 200 and %25 12 guage USH . actually , now that im thinking about it i really dont know what i want . sorry if i wasted yalls time and thanks again for the speedy and helpfull replies . ill still be lurking around here though i know that much .thanks again