Having trouble seeing deer this year, I hunt in western Pa.....Clarion Co. The antler restriction seems to be working, we are seeing bigger bucks, just not as many deer in general. Had the entire week off, saw 7 deer ! Son # 1 got a beauty of an 8 point on Wed. evening, that was the first deer he'd seen ! I realize we don't/won't and can't have a deer around every tree....but in our area we need to knock off killing 2-3 deer with every doe tag. My biggest problem is keeping my 13 year olds interest up when we go 2 days with out seeing anything. Hard to explain to them about quality time.....they want to see game ! Some might say, I didn't walk far enough in.....I'm 53, my father is 78 , I had a 13 year old with me......so what if I go back in a couple of miles and we shoot 2 deer...on bare ground, I'd still be dragging...provided I haven't had a heart attack yet. Sorry to ramble guys, just very disappointed with our deer situation in our area. ( norhtern 2F) BTW we hunt from a camp we've owned for years ( when we had deer )don't own much land , we hunt from neighboring farms with permission. Hate to sell camp. Maybe thats the answer though.