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Offline Sverre A.

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Why hunt with a handicap?
« on: September 29, 2007, 12:45:28 PM »
Today - I had to let a deer "go free" again.
Why?

I hunted as usual with a lever, and today it was a 45-70, and the distance was too long for my "old friend".

With a bolt in 308, 375 or whatever - the deer have been hanging now.

But hunting with a lever (and handguns) - gives me a good hunt-feeling - and a nostalgic feeling.

A bolt don`t  ;)


Why do you hunt with a lever?

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2007, 01:20:32 PM »
Short range hunting with a lever 45/70 is not a disadvantage for me.

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 01:45:04 PM »
at first i hunted with one because it was all i had. now i hunt with them because they are perfect for where i hunt.

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2007, 02:05:14 PM »
In my area - the ranges is 30 - 200 m.
For most of the levers - ranges beyond 130 m - is too far (my point of view).
But that`s ok - I don`t die if I have to let a deer go free.

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2007, 02:05:47 PM »
BLR in 257 BOB.
Savage 99 in 308.

I got a good warm & fuzzy feeling, and will hang em high, if I can see them.

If I'm long range hunting I get the bolt, but either of these do the trick 95% of the time.

I understand your bait in the title for the post, but you know it isn't a handicap. ;)

The only time it would be a handicap, is when you stopped loving it.

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2007, 01:00:57 PM »
[But that`s ok - I don`t die if I have to let a deer go free.]

By the grace of God.

BTW  -  200m is very doable with a .45-70 sighted properly, shooting Hornady LeverEvolution ammo.
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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2007, 01:07:32 PM »
I'd rather be a hunter............than just a deer sniper.  Marlins make ya work a little harder.  That's part of the fun, for me.

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2007, 02:54:09 PM »
Hmmmm, 200m?  Why would you consider a lever action a handicap???  True, the 45-70 has a, umm, bit of a trajectory over 200m but it surely isn't undauntable.  200m is a good shot: bolt, lever or pump.  I've got 3 lever actions I could easily use to 200m and a bunch of bolts that would also suffice but I wouldn't consider myself handicapped with a lever.  Just wonderin'.  Mikey.


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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2007, 01:19:11 PM »
Because shooting a Mule Deer with a scoped rifle is just to easy. Did it for years and now want more of a challange. So I use a Handgun and cast bullets and like it much more.

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2007, 02:37:23 PM »
I think these guys have pretty much said what I was going to say.
My hunting area is mostly short range, with 100 yds a real rarity. I need the speed of the short carbine for the fast shooting that has accounted for the majority of my deer, bear, and moose.
If I were hunting open ranges, yes, I'd use a bolt. But I'd never feel as comfortable, as I do with a lever.
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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2007, 08:57:08 AM »
who wants to gut a dammed deer anyway ;D
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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2007, 03:37:04 PM »
I shoot a 1895 Marlin Guide gun in 200m silhouette targets competition every month. I sure don't consider it a handicap. It shoots better than me. And I don't make sight adjustments for different ranges either. Of course I spent a day on my gun range to figure out  sight adjustments.
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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2007, 11:18:01 AM »
Being a bowhunter first, the levergun range seems pretty far to me.  What handicap are you referring to?
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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2007, 12:46:23 PM »
You guys are 100 years ahead of me....Hunting is a hobby, enjoy...As I remember one member saying a few months back..."I've never seen a 4 legged creature that I had to shoot"....


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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2007, 01:30:41 PM »
I've hunted with many calibers, up to and including a 300 Weatherby mag.  I was always more concerned with the kill than the hunt, never took the time to enjoy just being in the woods watching squirrels play, turkeys strutting around, the beauty of the woods.  The last two years, I've left my bolt guns at home, latched onto my old 3030 and have enjoyed deer hunting more than I have since my teenage years.  As for being handicapped with the shorter range, I think this has been a big part of my increased enthusiasm for going hunting.  Heck, I've seen wall hangers that were too far for even the Weatherby.  Besides, when I drag a 10 pointer taken with my 3030, I really enjoy seeing all those guys with their high powered, high priced bolts guns turning green. 

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2007, 01:36:15 PM »
 :)flintlock,nice flinter ya got there.What is it ?
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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2007, 02:18:22 PM »
Thanks rat...It is my version of what a 1770 Piedmont North Carolina rifle would look like...I used a .54 caliber barrel with a Siler lock and of course curly maple stock and a early Lancaster daisy patch box...It took me 2 years to build, and my middle daughter (now 22) was about 5 at the time..
She used to watch me make it, so it's hers when I'm gone...

What's neat, she is in grad school at Wake Forest, on a free ride (graduated from UNC this spring)...Her major is American History and tells folks that her love of history is her dad telling her bedtime stories of Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone.... :)

Thanks for asking...

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2007, 05:49:52 AM »
The handicap is in your brain. Dad gave me a Model 94 Winchester he bought new in 1957. It looked new when he gave it to me as he had only fired 7 rounds thru it. I was 20 when he gave it to me, and now at 58, it's my go to gun, but it doesn't look new anymore. It looks like family. In my early years of law enforcement I carried it as a tracker, and in the patrol car, but gave in to the mini-14s and the ar's, and bolt guns. I had found the 94 would not group well at 100 yards. I would get it down and mess with it occasionally, and put it back up for the newer more accurate guns.
A few years ago I called a custom lever gun smith and told him of the problem, but assured him the gun was not going in the mail to him, and did not blame him for not giving me any ideas on fixing it (I'm a pistol smith) myself. He told me where to look, and walla! A bent barrel band screw (bent at the factory in 1957) was pushing against the barrel and causing it to scatter groups.
Well, I had told my boys that if I ever got that gun to shootin I'd sell the rest, and I have, except for a Model 92 Winchester clone in 357 mag. It and the Model 94 3030 are my small, medium, and big game rifles. And elk's ribs are not much thicker than a whitetail's, or a buffalo's for that matter, and dead is dead. What a round, and what a history.
When one of my son's gets my Model 94 3030, they'll also get the newspaper clippings with the pictures of me doing a track on a man, carrying that ole Winchester, and they'll also know when and where the rifle came from, to go along with where it's been. A lever gun is not a handicap, it's a life style in the way of hunting, regardless of what you hunt.
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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2007, 10:35:35 AM »
I have .308's and a 7-30 waters, and a .243 all scoped. I also have a .308 with open sights. Last year I bagged 3 deer....2 with the bow and 1 with the 45-70. So far this year, I've missed a buck twice with the bow (%^#@^&) and I've taken a doe with the 45-70. The 45-70 has Williams peep sights on it.

So....I keep wondering why I have these really nice optics on these other guns!!!????

Oh, when you sholder my Marlin, it just feels right.

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2007, 12:27:37 AM »
Today - I had to let a deer "go free" again.
Why?

I hunted as usual with a lever, and today it was a 45-70, and the distance was too long for my "old friend".

With a bolt in 308, 375 or whatever - the deer have been hanging now.

But hunting with a lever (and handguns) - gives me a good hunt-feeling - and a nostalgic feeling.

A bolt don`t  ;)


Why do you hunt with a lever?


   :D Ha Ha,

      It seems that because the US was behind in adopting bolt actioned rifles their not nostalgic  ??? here is one of mine made a year before the Winchester 94 even came out:-

 



Yep that is the year is was made. It's a Mannlicher Mdl 1892 in 6.5x53R (.256 Mannlicher)

    Now the only lever operated rifles I have are like this:-





Which still has some original colour case showing on the underside of the lever.


P.S.. Britain was also slow to take up bolt actions in the Military  ::) as we had the Martini Henry followed by the Martini Enfield.

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Re: Why hunt with a handicap?
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2007, 10:50:33 AM »
There is not a weapon out there that will handicap you hunting. As opposed to weapons that will handicap you for harvesting.
Just another worthless opinion!!