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Offline cinosbus

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Lead in Glock barrels?
« on: December 13, 2007, 04:39:48 AM »
Veral, what is your take on shooting cast in Glock's polygonal barrels?

I'm wondering specifically for a G20, 10mm.

I've tried some factory ammo and commercial cast bullets with severe leading in only a few shots. Bullets measured .401"

Slugged it and got .402" in the front and .403" in the back, 6 lands. Can see light around a .401" bullet driven in just past the end of the chamber.

Is it worth trying to make work? Can it work?

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Re: Lead in Glock barrels?
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2007, 09:17:48 PM »
  I just answered a question about lapping a Glock, about 7 spaces from this one.  Please read that post for a bit more information.

  Get a WFN bullet at .403 diameter, size it to slightly over groove diameter, which will probably be obtained with a .402 sizer, and use LBT bullet lubricant. Your gun will give superb accuracy, probably more killing power than any other bullet available and it will not lead, even if the bullets are plain base.  Gas checked bullets will slip out a little easier, adding perhaps 50 to as much as 100 fps higher velocity with the hottest loads, and guarantee no leading without having to lap, just in case you have the roughest Glock barrel I've ever heard of.  I've never had a customer complain of leading with one in 27 years, when usng LBT bullets that fit and LBT bullet lubricant, nor known one that had to be lapped to give such performance.   Push through slugs are always advised as fixing any internal variations, if there are any, will improve accuracy.
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Re: Lead in Glock barrels?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 07:08:27 PM »
What gas checks would I use on a .403" mould? I don't see any .40 cal available from Lyman or Hornady.

Do you have an alloy recommendation?

Max speed in this gun for a jacketed bullet would be about 1250fps for a 180gr and just under 1200fps for a 200gr.  Which weight would you recommend for accuracy and stability? "lenght of twist" is shown as 9.84" by Glock, which seems way too fast to me?

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Re: Lead in Glock barrels?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008, 11:32:54 AM »
You can use Hornady .416 or 41 caliber gas checks just fine, but I believe Bullet Swaging Supply has their Gator brand in a 40 caliber diameter also.  At any rate, I recommend use of Gator checks in all calibers which they have as they are of top quality, at least equal to Hornady, who makes RCBS and Lyman checks, to Hornacy specs.  Perhaps the brightest aspect of Gator checks is the very attractive price without sacrificing quality.

  I recommend Wheel Weight alloy for most shooters as they are the cheapest source of suitable lead.  But you can use richer alloys if available at a reasonable price.

  You'll get more speed from an LBT bullet, and especially gas checked, than with jacketed.  Using the slowest powder listed in your manuals for a similar weight jacketed bullet, and increasing the charge till slide recoil is similar, speed will be probably in the area of 150 to 200 fps higher, which make the 10 MM a super hunting defense gun.  I suggest  a 180 gr weight as it will give adaquate penetration for anything one would probably expect to shoot at, with closest to optimum displacement velocity, or wound diameter, or kill speed, which are all three the same.
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