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New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« on: November 14, 2007, 03:34:38 AM »
There is a new 22 Magnum load being produced by Hornady now. a V-Max type load . Pointed tip , it appears to be. 30 or 35 grain load .  From what I can see of the ballistics on the ammo, it is just a bit less than the 17 HMR. But with a larger bullet, it should produce more  reliable performance on Coyotes.
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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2007, 03:41:46 AM »
Very interesting.
Sounds like one more reason I don't need a 17.

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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2007, 05:08:29 AM »
You can download the product sheet, 30gr @ 2200fps.

https://www.hornady.com/media_center/category_view.php?category_id=242
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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2007, 05:10:48 AM »
Unimpressed. I'd have liked it for Hornady to come out with another .22Mag round but not a weak light little 30 grain and a pointed nose does nothing at the ranges it's good for. I'd like to have seen a 40 JHP as that's the ONLY bullet I need for the round.


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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2007, 12:39:56 PM »
I ran my ballistics program and would predict that both the .17 HMR and the .22 Mag (with the new pointed bullet) would have remaining energies of about 175 foot-pounds at 100 yards. The velocity of the .17 HMR's 17-grain bullet would be about 2150 fps and the velocity of the .22 Mag's 30-grain bullet would be about 1600 fps. I think 175 foot-pounds is not sufficient energy for coyotes with such light bullets. I have shot a number of coyotes with the .17 Remington and the .17 Hornet and found that if their bullet impact velocity was 2,700 fps or more the coyotes died almost instantly. With a lower velocity the .17's did not work well for me. Since the .17 HMR only starts out at that velocity I don't think it is a very good coyote cartridge at any distance. Hornaday (or was it Nosler?) made some 33-grain plastic tip bullets for Remington to load into .22 Magnums. When it did not work out, several thousand of them were sold through a large reloading store. I bought some and found an accurate load for them in a .22 Hornet at about 2,900 fps muzzle velocity. I shot one coyote with this rifle at about 120 yards where the remaining velocity would be about 2,100 fps and the remaining energy would be almost the same as the muzzle energy for the new Hornaday .22 Mag load.  The bullet hit the small coyote in the lungs broadside and the coyote did not seem to know what happened. It ran about 50 yards, and layed down in a picked cornfield, facing away from me. Eventually its head went down and I walked up to it. A couple minutes later when I got about 50 yards away from it, it heard me coming and raised its head toward me. My second shot killed it. That was the most poorly killed coyote I ever recovered and the first shot was perfect. The .22 Mag may be OK for coyotes with heavy bullets at close range, but I don't think it is an adaquate coyote cartridge with a 30-grain bullet, nor is the .17 HMR with its light bullets.

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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2007, 12:20:31 AM »
I don't think there is a rimfire cartridge that is adequate for yotes period.  I know when I lived in California the critters were about the size of a Wisconsin fox.  Perhaps there a .22 mag would be ok.  Here they can get lots bigger, and I think they are centerfire country.
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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2007, 03:22:36 AM »
I guess I didn't see the part were they said it was perfect for coyotes.
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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2007, 04:10:43 AM »
I've run every sort of ammo I could find through several different .22 WMR rifles and find I'm in agreement with Greybeard. The lighter and faster loads do drop a bit less but wind drift quite a bit more and I find it harder to judge wind than distance. On the other hand, the 50 grain loads drift a bit less but drop quite a bit more, so the old standard 40 grain is still about the best compromise. I generally just use whatever gives me the smallest groups from my particular rifle. I do shoot a lot of Fiocchi 40 grain JHP or JFP because Graff sells them cheap and they aren't bad either from my BRNO 611 rifle or my AMT Automag ll. I agree that the .22 mag is no coyote rifle, God's Dog deserves more respect.
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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2007, 01:41:51 PM »
being the vermin they are,(yotes) they normally get shot at with whatever is in hand at the time.
  I have found that they are not tough to kill. A 60 grain SSS .22lr from aguila .. makes pretty short work of them at close range.
I read a while back that aguila was going to load a heavy .22 mag also and call it goliath but i have not seen any yet.
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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2007, 02:20:18 PM »
I still like the .17hmr for longer ranges. I think that this is more of a waste of R&D for Hornaday. If they could also give up on making stupid rounds like the .308 marlin express and come out with something useful.
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Re: New Hornady 22 Rimfire magnum ammo: Pointed!!
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2007, 02:32:58 PM »
if its performance is similar to the remington accutip load, I'm all for it. my 25mn loves the accutip for pa groundhogs. But I have to agree, if my gun grouped the regular 40 grn loads better I would stick with them for all around use,with less wind drift. Its just that in my gun the tipped bullets make itty bitty groups.
I might try them