reddog, I just don't understand!!!! i've met Mike and Tracy of Seacoastartillery in person, they are nice guys! Last summer they took some of their valuable time,and came right here, to Floyd Co. Virginia for a shoot. i'm neither rich or poor, but they let me as well as anyone else that wanted to, fire that beautiful work of art 15,000 dollar gun. They are regular guys, but with many talents and skills, you'd have to see and touch the gun in person to understand things a little bit better. What impressed me the most was that we all sat around and talked, while eating hotdogs cooked on the grill. They are real people that care and take the time to talk and listen, i don't know what else to say, they are NICE GUYS!...........A lady friend of mine bought a $750 horse, worked, trained and showed the horse for six months. then sold it for $16,500.......did she rob them, did the folks waste their money, they were the high bidders and knew what they wanted.......... there will be another Floyd co. shoot this year, all are welcome, rich, poor, all will be treated and respected the same. don't matter if someone has a seacoast gun, full size artillery whatever, or a home made fire cracker cannon. The way i see it, people have what they can build or afford to buy, but ALL should be respected for lovers of artillery! That's one of lifes little lessons i saw in use by Mike and Tracy.