I know what you guys mean, I was looking at a bushmaster similar to my nieghbors but saw a Panther Arms Lo Pro in .223 for only $799, .5 MOA out of the box, what a deal! But sadly no deal for now. The great thing about these H&Rs is they all basically look the same, the wives sometimes confuse them for guns you had had for a long time!!! Now I wonder where she got the idea I have had that a long time? Of course another good thing about them is the price, you can afford to buy one for you AND one for the wife!!!....<><.... :grin: