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Offline Zachary

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Range report on my new 7mm ULTRA Mag.
« on: June 21, 2003, 02:01:16 PM »
I have a brand new Remington BDL SS in 7mm ULTRA Mag that I bought about 1 year ago.  Unfortunately, I have a very bad habit of continuing to buy new guns.  What I should do is buy a gun, buy a scope, and then buy another gun, and then another scope.  As a result of my bad habit, I had about 7 or 8 brand new rifles with no scopes.  As a result, I was forced to go on a scope buying spree and purchased 6 scopes in the past year - roughly half from Jon at the opticzone and the other half from Chris at SWFA.

Anyway, I bought a Bushnell Elite 4200 4x-16x-50mm and had it mounted in Silver Leupold Dual Dovetail rings and bases on my 7mm Ultra.  It had been sitting as a complete package for about 6 months now.  Well, I finally took it to the range today and boy and I glad I did!

Let me first start out by saying that I live in Miami and that it is downright HOT down here.  I don't know what the exact temp is, but it must have been close to 90 degrees - which is not exactly perfect weather for sighting in a rifle - especially one with as much powder as an ULTRA Mag.

Based on the foregoing, I only shot 12 shots, and it took me about 3 hours! :eek:   Why?  Because I wanted to make sure that the barrel would not overheat.  I'm not sure how many minutes each shooting session was, but I don't think that I shot more than 2 shots per session.  And what I also did was, since it was soo hot, I used the time to clean the barrel after every shot or so, except for the last three shots.

The results?  Well, it took me 3 shots to bring the gun to the middle of the target.  Thereafter, although I was cleaning after every shot, I was somewhat shooting for groups.  I don't expect groups to be tight, but I do want some kind of indication of where to adjust the scope.  What I stopped doing a long time ago was "chasing the holes."  By this I mean the following: Lets say that I shoot a bullet on the NE portion of the outside ring.  Well, if I shoot 3 shot groups, then maybe the overall group may be moved a bit toward the SW direction.  Thus, if I "chase the holes" - meaning the first bullet in the NE section, then the following bullets may also move toward the NE section.  Does this make any sense? :?    

Anyway, like I said, when you clean after every shot, even if you are somewhat trying to group 3 shots, don't expect best groups because the cleaning residue in the barrel cause somewhat of fliers.  

However, I did not clean the barrel after the last 3 shots.  The result?  Guys, let me tell you... I GOT 3/4" GROUPS and the LAST TWO SHOTS OF THAT 3 SHOT GROUP were 1/4"!!! :eek:  :-D  :grin:  :eek:  :-D  :grin: That's awesome, especially considering that I was shooting a stock, factory NIB rifle with NO ALTERATIONS.

I was planning on, and eventually will, have a trigger job done on the gun by a professional gunsmith and have the trigger pull adjusted down to 3 pounds, but these groups are very very good.

Oh, and BTW, I was using factory ammo.  Yup, factory ammo.  It was Remington Premier 7mm Ultra Mag with 140 grain Nosler Partitions.  I would have liked to use the 160 grainers, but the store was sold out of the 160s.  But heck, with results like this, I just may stay with the 140s - which should be fine for whitetail and wild hogs.  If I go after bigger hogs, or even elk, I have a couple of 300 Win. Mags, one .338 Win. Mag., and one .375 H&H. (Yes, I AM planning on using my .375 H&H on some MONSTER PIGS! :twisted: )

Again, 3/4" groups, and the last two shots were 1/4".  I would imagine that the last two shots were tighter as the residue in the barrel was diminished.

Okay, I know.  Let me shoot numerous 3-shot groups and then average them together because this may be a fluke.  There is no doubt that more extensive shooting will produce more precise results, but let's not take away from what happened either.  Why?  Well, remember my previous three shot group when I was cleaning after every shot?  Well, in those groups I got a 1" 3-shot group.  That's still a great group for such a super high velocity, factory rifle, and it supports the credibility of the subsequent much tighter shots.

So and I happy?  Yes.  Will I throw away all of my Tikkas?  No.   :grin:

Zachary

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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2003, 02:15:10 PM »
Sounds like it is shooting wonderfull, but my 300 out of the box was horrible. Might have been a bad one off the line.  My barrel was touching the forend all the way to about 1/2 inch from the end, it was all full of sawdust covered with varnish.  Try sliding a small strip (3/4"x 10" aprx) down between the barrel and the stock.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2003, 03:22:56 PM »
Zachary, you are right on.  In the Marine Corps we were taught not to chase you shots.  We shoot three shots for group  then trace a line to each shot forming a trilateral group and then fine the middle of this and then you move your clicks over or up or down from this.  Never chase your spotters.

What kind of kick does that rifle have, It sounds like a keeper.

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2003, 01:46:52 AM »
Quote from: dbuck


What kind of kick does that rifle have, It sounds like a keeper.


dbuck,

The 7mm Ultra Mag has one of the SHARPEST kicks I have ever felt.  I installed one of those special Remington/Sims Vibration Labratory recoil pads on the stock.   Then, I also bought one of those PAST Magnum Recoil Shields that you place over your shoulder with straps.  

Well, guess what?  I didn't feel ANY pain whatsoever, BUT the gun did come back very far and very quickly.   Come to think of it, I'm gonna call my 7mm Ultra Mag my 7mm COBRA.

The Elite 4200 4x-16x-50mm has constant eye relief of about 3.5" or 3.6"  I never had the scope hit my eye.  In fact, I was wearing protection eye glasses (mandatory at my shooting range), and the scope never even touched my glasses, so I am VERY surprised that the scope never touched me.

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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2003, 02:21:21 PM »
I had a Sako in 7mm Weatherby mag.  It had a bit of a punch.  I could group moa with it, but it was not what I would call a joy to shoot.  I am not a small person, nor do I mind recoil. . . but I stepped down to a 7mm mag.  It is a lot more comfortable, for me, to shoot.  I can imagine what your 7mm Cobra tries to do to your shoulder :)  :-D
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2003, 05:45:36 AM »
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I can imagine what your 7mm Cobra tries to do to your shoulder :)  :-D


Even with the special Recoil Pad AND Past Magnum recoil shoulder shield, the gun came back several inches.  I couldn't feel anything, but the gun DID come back a lot.  I was very surprised that the scope didn't "bite" me.

And you're right, the regular 7mm Rem. Mag. is a pussy cat compared to the Weatherby/Ultra Mag/ "Cobra" rounds.

Zachary

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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2003, 05:00:52 AM »
Zack,
Just curious, any chrono data yet? I am wondering what I would get different from my Ruger No. 1 which sends a 139 SST 3,400 fps with IMR 7828. Smallest groups I have ever shot out of hunting rifle with hunting loads. 3 shot <0.5 consistently. Trigger reworked and same Elite scope you have. Wouldn't trade that scope for the big "L" under any circumstances. In fact, all new scopes are Elites now.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2003, 05:10:32 AM »
Rifle sounds good but as you know a Tikka or savage could shoot those groups as well and no need for a gunsmith to work the trigger pull........

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2003, 06:28:29 AM »
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Rifle sounds good but as you know a Tikka or savage could shoot those groups as well and no need for a gunsmith to work the trigger pull........


Yea, I know as I own a couple of Tikkas myself  :wink:  but Tikka doesn't chamber any of their rifles in the 7mm Ultra - a/k/a 7mm Cobra.

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Re: 7 MM RUM
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2003, 06:31:45 AM »
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Zack,
Just curious, any chrono data yet? I am wondering what I would get different from my Ruger No. 1 which sends a 139 SST 3,400 fps with IMR 7828. Smallest groups I have ever shot out of hunting rifle with hunting loads. 3 shot <0.5 consistently. Trigger reworked and same Elite scope you have. Wouldn't trade that scope for the big "L" under any circumstances. In fact, all new scopes are Elites now.
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Muddy,

Actually, I just used factory ammo and, I guess on a separately related issue, I don't chrono my loads.  I guess I really don't need to given that most of my shots are under 200 yards.  Sure, it wouldn't hurt to do a chrono test, especially given that this gun is made to shoot are really long distances, but I really don't need to make such tests for my current purposes.

As for the scopes, I totally agree.  I own a few Leupold Vari-X IIIs are I firmly believe that my Elite 4200s are better (dare I say superior!)

Zachary

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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2003, 04:03:44 PM »
Just a dumb question here, why do you shoot a 7mm RUM if almost all your shots are within 200 yards?  Seems to me a 7mm-08 would do the job with half the powder and three times less recoil.  Oh, and factory loads cost about half, or a little less, than a box of Ultra ammo.

Not that it matters much, as long as you like the rifle for the intended purpose.
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2003, 05:16:54 AM »
Tod,

Actually, I also have a 7mm-08 and I love it.  I got a really good deal on the 7Ultra Mag and just couldn't pass it up.  More importantly, although most of my shots are under 200 yards, I intend on practicing at longer ranges for a possible hunt out west - where shots at mule deer average about 350 to 400 yards.  With this gun grouping well under 1 inch at 100 yards, the gun (and hopefully me) should be able to take shots cleanly at those long ranges.

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2003, 12:11:07 PM »
Zachary, that explains everything for me!  Should be a good western rifle.
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2003, 04:13:49 PM »
Yea, I would think that the rifle is up to the task...Now I need to prepare and see if I can shoot that far. :)

Rest assured...I will never take a shot, regardless of distance, unless I am certain that I can make it happen humanely.

Zachary