You guys stink. I started looking around this forum a couple of weeks ago and now after reading you guys' threads my own ideas have started brewing. I bought an nef pardner 12 gauge a couple years ago, and pleased with it started looking at handis. Well, last spring i bought a new 45-70 synthetic handi and promptly added a williams peep sight and sling for an easy carrying deer/bear gun. A new 12 gauge tdc followed me home from kittery trading post last week and i'll be returning in a few weeks for a lonely ultra varmint 22 mag. $165 brand spankin new. Next will be a new 30/30 or 44 mag handi and this summer the tdc will be sent in for a 410 barrel. Damn you all for giving me ideas... (jk) kojak