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Offline montveil

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60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« on: March 20, 2008, 05:31:48 AM »
I read somewhere that someone makes a 22 lr 60 grain round.
Anyone have any feedback on their use in an autoloader?

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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2008, 10:51:48 AM »
I have some that I played with. Supposed to be sub sonic. It functioned ok but was not overly accurate. It's not what you would consider quiet by any means either. It is sub sonic only because of the heavy bullet. It isn't loaded light for noise or any thing.   KN
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2008, 12:32:10 PM »
Ran down the info at
http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dl...eitemid=135961Aguila SSS Sniper Subsonic Ammunition 22 Long Rifle 60 Grain Lead Round Nose Box of 50
Product #: 135961
950 ft/sec with 1200 f5t pounds la heavy and slow--sounds like my 45
reviews are also listed

Thanks for the help
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2008, 03:55:27 PM »
tried it and it is lucky to hit on an 8X11 sheet of paper at 50 yds. i would say it wasn't accurate but somehow that does not quite describe its lack of performance
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2008, 03:13:29 AM »
The 60 grain round was designed for close work and is not recommended by the manufacturer for ranges greater than 25 yards.  It seems that shorter barrels work better, at least in experience with my own battery of .22's.  There are some aftermarket barrels made specifically for the round with a much faster twist.  I have used the round on varmints up to the size of possums to very good effect, but I have no need to dedicate a rifle to this purpose.
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2008, 06:43:03 AM »
Expect keyholing and poor accuracy past 20yds or so with standard 22lr rifling twist rates.

Not a great round, IMHO.
There are several other rounds packing quite a bit more energy, with the benefit of velocity for flatter shooting. I tried one box and was disgusted. Not worth the price!
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2008, 02:18:34 PM »
how do you think it might work for a CCW personal defense load for a small .22 LR semi-auto?....<><....:)
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2008, 02:30:27 PM »
That is a question for the rimfire handguns forum.
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2008, 10:23:25 PM »
My Winchester 72a really likes the Aquila SSS 60 gr sub sonic. Green Mountain Barrels makes a special fast twist barrel for Ruger 10/22's made for the 60 gr boolits.
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2008, 06:38:55 AM »
Well I guess I am hooked on trying some. I do like heavy slower bullets. I have a 10/22 with a walnut stock that I never use. Perhaps I will try some 60 grainers in it. If it does not do well with them I might even get one of the barrels with the twist for heavier bullets. I will try them in my pocket gun for work and if they cycle and work reliably I may try them for a carry load. I was never happy with high speed light bullets in the gun for work before I retired and now in my retirement job I may have found something better, go figure....<><....:)
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2008, 12:28:56 PM »
I've used the used the 60gr Aguilla in three of my 22 Long Rifles; Ruger 10/22, Springfield M-6 Survival Rifle, and my Springfield 1911-A1 with Ciener (sp) 22 LR conversion kit.  I've shot it up to 15yards at the local indoor range.  1) 10/22- Shooting indoors I noticed early on that there was a great deal of flash at the breach end of the barrel.  This tells me that the timing is off and that the bullet is still n the barrel at the time the action is open and ejecting the case.  I no longer shoot these in my 10/22.  If you do I'd recommend a stronger spring on the bolt return.  2) 1911-A1 w/ 22 LR conversion shoots these great with no flash at the breach.  At 15 yard there are signs that the bullets are starting to yaw, but still hitting point of aim.  3)  Springfield M-6 at 15 yards these shoot to point of aim, but again there are signs that the bullets are starting to yaw, as the bullet holes are oblong and not round. 

Try Remington Sub-Sonic if yo want a quiet(er) round for your 22.  It shoots to point of aim, with nice round holes, in all three of my 22's, functioning my 10/22 and Ciener conversion reliably.

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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2008, 11:09:04 AM »
I'm actually a huge fan of the SSS's. Where they truly shine is out of my 1-9 twist, 20" AR barrel using a Ceiner conversion. I have shot 100yrd sub-MOA groups with this setup. Out of my rifle there is almost no difference in noise level between a SSS and a Rem sub-sonic. In fact, I have fired them out the back door, with a friend safely positioned in the back yard 15 yrd to the side of the muzzle to check the noise level. The shot sounded like someone dropped a book on the floor inside (not very loud). The impact of the bullet against a tree 100yrds out was much louder than the shot. I have also fired the SSS out of a suppressed (legally) weapon with 14" barrel. All you heard was the hammer drop, then, THWACK as the bullet slapped into a woodchuck.
The key to sound reduction with these is having enough barrel to allow the gases to expand inside the barrel. They have a much shorter case, so the have to use a small amount of fast burning powder. In the end less gas is produced so initially high pressure bleeds off rapidly within the barrel. That makes it perfectly suited for suppressed rifles. However, they are VERY loud out of pistols. I would agree the comparison to a 45ACP is about right, based on firing one out of a P22.
They are a great round for a specific application. Just my .02
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2008, 08:30:08 PM »
Quote from: montveil on March 20, 2008, 05:31:48 AM
I read somewhere that someone makes a 22 lr 60 grain round.
Anyone have any feedback on their use in an autoloader?



Ive tried some through my 10/22 and a little Beretta 21, they shoot ok, but tended to start tumbling at ranges greater than 10 yards in the Beretta, not great... Now if you are using 22 conversion in a 9 twist AR-15 or a 7 twist. Accuracy is good. I remember seeing a barrel marketed by Aguilla (1-9 twist) that was made just for this ammo. The idea is for a hard hitting round in the 22LR that would be sub sonic for use with sound suppressors.
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2008, 05:55:44 AM »
Out of my Romanian m-69 trainer they are very accurate, about 1 inch at 40 yards. In my 10-22 they keyhole at 40 yards. My penetration tests on wet newsprint show they out penetrated every round I tried including the 40 grain velocitor. Testing was done at 25 yards.
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Re: 60 grain 22 lrrimfire ammo
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2008, 03:21:29 PM »
I tried them in my Rock River AR/W USAF conversion kit, very poor accuracy, then my Sako Finnfire, same. In my 1/22 with Green Mountain 24" bull barrel, they are accurate and quiet. I wouldnt bother buying them. Lapua had a 48 grain bullet on the market. If you track them down, PM me.
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