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Offline Old Griz

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« on: June 28, 2003, 07:55:52 PM »
OK, dumb question time. I just read an article that said you didn't have to seat the bullets very far into the cartridge when using "paper patch bullets." I have heard of these before, but I really don't know what they are. Will someone please help this ignorant shooter.
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2003, 04:30:55 AM »
old griz,

yes, you can use pp bullets seated into the case.  IF you use bore sized bullets.  also, after fl sizing, do not expand, only slightly bell with the expander.  i use a redding die set for my 45-70 and 90.  the resultant seating of the bore size bullet makes for a fairly snug fit for about 1/8".  read that cartridge belt safe.  shoots pretty good too!

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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2003, 07:35:09 PM »
For info on paper patched bullets, log on the below link:

http://www.iastate.edu/~codi/PPB/PPB.html
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2003, 03:44:11 AM »
Wow. Thanks Ray. That is a great site.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2003, 02:10:46 AM »
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I have blamed Brent Danielson many times for getting me hooked on Paper Patch Bullets  :lol:

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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2003, 05:21:13 AM »
How does it improve performance?
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2003, 06:18:08 AM »
Griz, paper patching improves performance in one important way -  for hunting, you can use very soft bullets (even pure lead) to get good performance on game, without getting any leading in your barrel.

One of the problems with cast bullets is that to shoot them at higher velocities, they should be fairly hard - and this results in poor performance on game.   By fairly hard, I mean 1:20 or 1:30 tin to lead.  

For most hunting, you would want your alloy to be 1:40 or even softer (a big flat nose helps, too).   But if you use bullets this soft, you may run into leading problems.  There are several ways to get around this - the "cast softnose" is one, where you first pour a little pure lead into your mould, and then immediately pour in some harder alloy.  This gives you a hard bearing-surface, but a soft nose for expansion.  

Another, very traditional, way, is to paper-patch.  The paper patch acts just like a metal jacket (in fact, the early metal jackets were referred-to as "metal-patched").

There may be some disagreement as to exactly how hard you want your bullets to be for hunting, and it depends a lot on what game you're hunting and how fast you shoot your bullets - but the point is, if you want to shoot soft bullets, then paper patching will allow you to do it.

If you're really interested in this, then definitely get Paul Matthews' book "The Paper Jacket".

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2003, 07:44:17 AM »
Thanks guys. Now I know the how and the why. Gee I love this forum. An ignorant guy like me can learn soooooooooo much!
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