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>62 cal. smooth bore rifle
« on: January 28, 2008, 04:37:40 AM »
Will you gentleman please tell me where I can purchase a .62 cal. smooth bore rifle in percussion.  I would like to experiment with one.

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Re: >62 cal. smooth bore rifle
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 08:59:14 AM »
Smoothrifles are very useful firearms as you no doubt know, and were a lot more common than most folks realize. Many of the famed "Kentucky Rifles" were in fact smoothbores. I'm in the process of building myself a Bucks County longrifle and in researching original rifles of that area I found that 27 out of 44 rifles photographed in one book were smoothbores. That's probably a higher percentage than in other regions but smoothbores were common all over, they just were not generally built in rifle style with crescent butts and rifle sights. About 90% of those smoothrifles were between .44 and .54 caliber. Smoothrifles generally were of smaller caliber than "fowlers" of the same time and place. Since the styling and architecture of the smoothrifles were the same as a rifled gun (except that smoothrifles never had double set triggers) anyone who builds rifles can make a smoothrifle by just substituting a smoothbore barrel. You might check with TVM, either Tennessee Valley Muzzleloading or Tennessee Valley Manufacturing, or with Sitting Fox or Tip Curtis, they all build very good guns at very good prices. I'd also recommend you check out the web site of "Track of The Wolf", they have a fine site with many detailed photos of custom guns for sale, you may find just what you want and they also will have all the accessories needed to shoot it. Flintlocks are really more historically correct since by the percussion era they had generally split into distinctly different rifles and shotguns but if built to resemble a flintlock which had been converted to percussion it would not be amiss.  But then why not just go flint, they work fine once you learn how to feed and handle them, I don't feel at all handicapped with a flintlock, in fact I prefer them over the "cap guns".
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Re: >62 cal. smooth bore rifle
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 06:21:10 AM »
Here is a .69 smoothbore for $565.



http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_186_191&products_id=3482

Dixie also has some percussion shotguns in 20, 12, and 10 gauge.

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Re: >62 cal. smooth bore rifle
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2008, 12:40:00 PM »
It's a smooth bore  or it's a rifle  it can't be both
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Re: >62 cal. smooth bore rifle
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 02:04:22 AM »
It's a smooth bore  or it's a rifle  it can't be both

Actually many of the original longrifles were smoothbored and the term "smoothbore rifle" is authentic to the period.

It indicates a firearm made it the style of the rifle rather than a fowler.

Dickert, Angst, Sell, Armstrong and others all made them.
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Re: >62 cal. smooth bore rifle
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 11:22:35 AM »
It's a smooth bore  or it's a rifle  it can't be both

actually it can be both . there were designs that had a  barrel that was smooth at the muzzle  but rifled at the breech  .

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A gun barrel having a rifled-bore section at the breech end thereof and a smooth-bore section at the muzzle end thereof, the sections having a gas tight connection therebetween, the rifled-bore section comprising a first generally tubular body having a longitudinal bore and at least one spiral groove formed in the wall of the bore to a depth of a predetermined dimension, the rifled-bore section having a length corresponding substantially to the peak pressure point for the gun barrel, the smooth-bore section comprising a second generally tubular body having a longitudinal bore coaxial with the longitudinal bore of the rifled-bore section, and the longitudinal bore of the smooth-bore section having a diameter greater than the diameter of the bore of the rifled-bore section and less than the diameter of the spiral rifling groove.   

there are others IE over and under which had a smooth bore on the bottom and rifle on the top .


 normally however a smooth rifle is a term used for  a smooth bore that was built for the purpose of shooting  a round ball , l and shot  as an added bonus .
 The difference between a smooth rifle and a fowler is that a fowler had a lighter barrel  and desined  to shoot shot yet capable of shooting RB.
 a smooth rifle will also most times have some kind of rear sight . many trade guns were  built with a rear sight . its a myth that smoothbores do not have rear sights.
 this  hold true for fowlers which most times do not have a rear sight

 Here is a picture of an original  SXS smooth rifle  that I own .
 What makes it a smooth rifle ?
 The barrels are 42 inches long  an near a ¼ inch thick  at the muzzle  and the center rib is near 3/4 of an inch wide . The stock is double wedge pins  to hold the heavy charges .
 it also has a n area wher a rear  rifle sight was once attached

 Now its true one could shoot shot from this as it’s a smooth bore  BUT  its to heavy and long  for  wing shooting which most  SXS were designed for