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Offline Minnesota1

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257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« on: March 01, 2008, 01:38:23 PM »
I am looking to get an encore barrel in 257 Ackley Improved.  I would imagine I need a 257 Roberts barrel and would have to have it rechambered to an Ackley Improved.  If this is so who does it and how much would it cost?

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Re: 257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2008, 04:29:10 PM »
Why not just buy the chamber you want.  http://www.matchgrademachine.com/
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Re: 257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2008, 08:03:34 PM »
I second the matchgrademachine.com advice. They turn out incredible barrels at good prices and in a reasonable time frame.

Also, you can't take a .257 Roberts and have it properly chambered to .257 AI in an Encore. In a bolt rifle, that's no problem as the barrel can be set back. But in the Encore, the headspace won't be true to .257 AI specs. Granted, a seasoned loader can deal with this, but it may cause a problem if/when you want to sell it.

There's one particular 'smith who's moved around the country a bit lately and keeps doing this. He'll take a 30-30 Contender barrel and run an AI reamer into it. Folks -- even other 'smiths -- have tried to tell him otherwise, but to each his own...

Any time I see a TC rechamber listed, I make certain I know what the original chamber was before even thinking about buying it.

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Re: 257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2008, 08:06:47 PM »
Forgot to add: if you are intent on buying a barrel and having it rechambered, SSK Industries  is a good bet for this. But by the time you purchase a barrel, pay for shipping/rechambering, etc., you could have had a new custom barrel made to your exact specifications.

Just my .02.

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Re: 257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 06:08:15 AM »
I second the matchgrademachine.com advice. They turn out incredible barrels at good prices and in a reasonable time frame.

Also, you can't take a .257 Roberts and have it properly chambered to .257 AI in an Encore. In a bolt rifle, that's no problem as the barrel can be set back. But in the Encore, the headspace won't be true to .257 AI specs. Granted, a seasoned loader can deal with this, but it may cause a problem if/when you want to sell it.

There's one particular 'smith who's moved around the country a bit lately and keeps doing this. He'll take a 30-30 Contender barrel and run an AI reamer into it. Folks -- even other 'smiths -- have tried to tell him otherwise, but to each his own...

Any time I see a TC rechamber listed, I make certain I know what the original chamber was before even thinking about buying it.

I have no clue how many times I have made the same case. I suspect i know which 'smith (?) you are referrring to. I thought I may have been the only one who actually read PO Ackleys books.

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Re: 257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 11:47:27 AM »
What amazes me is how few people actually have a clue about this. Usually, when someone lists a rechamber and I ask about the original chambering, I get a "what difference does it make?" type answer.

The 'smith I referred to in the earlier reply and I had a conversation about headspace a few years ago. He tried to tell me that since his chambers were on the minimum spec side and that they were well-aligned with the bore that headspace would be correct.  This was in reference to a 30-30 AI from a 30-30, by the way.

He, too, had no clue, and one of his "specialties" was Contender & Encore barrel re-chambers and "stubs." 

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Re: 257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 04:07:07 AM »
That would be DW ?

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Re: 257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 07:11:43 AM »
That's him...

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Re: 257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 09:47:16 AM »
A stub = a cheesy way out of having to weld a lug on a barrel or a attempt to avoid litigation that goes along with the responsibility of welding said lug on a barrel.

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Re: 257 Roberts Improved--Who Rechambers
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 10:12:00 AM »
The stubbed barrels that I am familiar were nothing better than 1.25" groupers at best -- and that's in the hands of seasoned shooters/reloaders.

To me, that is not satisfactory, especially for the price tags on those particular barrels.