G-2 not ready to eat crow yet!!!!!

[norm]

:? At 5:45pm mst I held fondled and played with the first G-2 in the valley of the great salt lake. At least I think it was the first, rummors have it that there is another available and I will search for it tommorow. This frame was bought out from under me by a former good friend and T.C. addict, who called this afternoon to flaunt his treasure. Low serial number g153x. Initial reactions, good looking, points well, interesting curve to the trigger, smooth finish on the trigger. Initial distractions, had to try several barrels to get one to fit, could not get the action to cock. Other than that a great $260. paper weight. Sooooo while I have held my first G-2 I will wait to eat crow till I hold my first WORKING G-2 :-D

[Robert]

I'm going to try to stay positive with my replies about the G-2, (already got in enough trouble)  but so far, what I have heard is exactly what you said....they dont work with our barrels. Sure glad I didnt get rid of my Contender frames like some folks did.  How is the Whisper?  I love the Waters.

[les hemby]

from what i can see there not very pretty

[Dan Johnson]

That's odd. Every barrel I've tried, and I've tried a few including an SSK custom, fits perfectly on mine. Trigger pull is excellent, 2-3/4 pounds out of the box, and .....well, I just love everything about it.

Dan Johnson

[Graybeard]

Hate to say it Dan but with TC knowing where it was going and that it would be written up in a major magazine I strongly suspect the one you got is not representative of what folks will be getting over the counter. Still it just might be folks need to wait on them to get the bugs out. I hate to buy any new gun the first year or two of production as if there are gonna be problems that's when they will be most common.

GB

[Bullseye]

Someone finally said it!  Thanks Graybeard.  I thought that for the last month or so when everyone was wondering why Dan had his G2 before anyone else could find one.  Agree on that holding off on that new thing for a year or two also, had a couple cars like that, its not just guns.

[Dan Johnson]

GB;
I considered that too but I don't believe it is a "ringer". Paper trail on it is too generic. If it were a ringer it would not have gone through the normal process. All the packaging also looked factory fresh. If I had suspected it was tweaked I would have indicated so. I fully agree though, it usually does take a while to get the bugs out of a new production gun. Maybe the quality control is not at its best yet.

[Dan Johnson]

Bullseye;
         I didn't intend to confuse anyone. I just don't feel comfortable saying, "Hey, I'm a gun writer so I got one before you did, nah, na, nah, na, nah, nah."  :-D  Besides, the real reason was probably because I went bear hunting with one of the head honchos at T/C last September and have been whining and nagging him mercilessly for a G2 ever since.  He just wanted to shut me up. :lol:

[norm]

Talked to my friend this afternoon. His call to T.C. was met with some disbelief and the sugestion to try a new or newer barrel. Last night we tried one type III and three type IV's. This afternoon he tried a Bullberry barrel that is less than a year old, it locked up and functioned. I hope to play with it tomorrow, will follow up when I can. As for my search for the other frame in town I turned up zip. It is either sold or I didnt ask the right people. I will continue my quest tomorrow.

[KYODE]

norm, i have one(G2) on backorder at my local shop with a 14" 22lr match barrel. i can't wait! even if a few people do have to eat crow

[Robert]

Always a beleiver in a happy ending, and really hope and pray thr new G-2 is even better than the Contender.

[myronman3]

my entire take on the g2 isnt positive.   i already have my 2 contenders and would not have been in the market for a g2 anyway.   i will say that t/c pushing the date back over and over again really turned me off.   now i hear this about barrels not working.   figures.   i have a barrel that i would like to put different locking lugs on but t/c said i have to remove them and send them in; then they will send me the new ones.  kind of sticks in my craw (but i can understand that they dont want folks stocking up spare parts on t/c's good will and $).  now i will also say that they have gone  above and beyond anything i ever would have expected them to do;  and the myronman remembers that stuff.   so i still favor t/c.  
one last thing-to dan ... i dont know you at all or about you, other than reading your posts.   judging from that i think so far you are a very credible person.   but you have to admit;  seems a bit funny, doesnt it?   you describe the triggers as good; others say their trigger sucks.   your gun takes all the barrels you try; another guys plays hell to find one that works?   you have to admit;  it is at least a possiblity they sent you a ringer.

[norm]

I should probably set up what happened last nite. Former friend calls at 5:30 to brag about new toy :evil: . 5:45 I am in his living room drooling over what rightfully should be mine :eek: . 6:30 his wife has been holding dinner now for 30 minutes :x , kids screaming :roll: ,dog barking :lol: . Two contender addicts pulling barrels of frames trying to find one that works useing words that would make a marine blush :twisted: . You get the pitchure. dont you. If we would have had time Im sure we would have got this thing working, even if it had meant taking the danged thing to pieces :? . Anyway my initial reaction was and still is that this thing looks good and points very well. We were very frustrated that the first 4 barrels didnt work. I should of calmed down before I posted . That said I hope to pop some caps on this beast this weekend and get a better feel for it.
norm

[Jeff Vicars]

Norm, did you clean the crud out of the frame before installing barrels?

[Dan Johnson]

myronman;
        Yep, it is possible they sent me a ringer, but if they did they were sure sneaky about it.

Some observations;
I went back through the threads and found that two people had come across G2's with heavy triggers. Norm had some problems with barrels fitting but said he will look into it further. I also read where several people had looked at the guns and liked them. Interesting thing was, the people that liked them got very little response from the folks here. Maybe I'm wrong, but I see a preconceived notion from a lot of people here that they just are not going to like the guns no matter what. I'm not sure why. It is a T/C forum and I assume everybody here likes T/C products. They like the old Contender, in spite of its many flaws, and they like the Encore. We all know T/C makes a quality product so why all the negativity over a new one? Do some really believe their old barrels are not going to fit it? I'd bet by now T/C knows how to make a frame to fit their own barrels. Heavy triggers? That's easy enough to fix. Did no one ever have to work on the triggers on the old Contenders? G2's too heavy? Can't handle an extra 1.6 ounces? The list of possible negatives goes on and on while few seem to care about the many positive improvements. Could it be some have a lot invested in their old Contender frames and just don't want to accept there may be something better out there? Beats me and I don't really care. I just reported on my experience with one G2. But I couldn't find anything wrong with it so there must be foul play afoot. I guess the thought that T/C could design and build a good gun is just too outlandish to accept. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! You guys have fun.

[grizz]

Here is my take on the new G2's.. First I want to say I currently only have a Encore and never owned a contender and have no reason to buy one other then I dont have this yet lol... After hearing both good and bad things about this I figured I would see if I could locate one.. Well after searchin for a few weeks I finnaly found 2 differnet places with them.. So on my way to the first shop I stoped by my dads house to grab all 4 of his orignal T/C contender bbls... Got to the first shop and boy is that a real nice looking piece.. I would have to agree with Norm it deffinatly does point real nice... Tested the trigger and it was nice and crisp I would say around 2 1/2 lbs which is were I like them to be now onto trying the bbls.. Well the first 2 I tried locked up without any issues and functioned just fine... Now the other 2 I tried no matter what we couldnt get the gun to close right... Now the shop owner was even curious as to why so he dug out 2 contender bbls he had in the shop and sure enough they both fit like a dream.. Ok I havent ever seen these bbls on my dads contender so I thought well maybe its just these 2 bbls.. So on my way to the second shop I stopped by my dads to let him know about my findings.. So we broke out his conteder and sure enough all 4bbls fit and shoot fine on his conteder ok so least they do function on his gun....

 Off to shop number 2 this time I brought my Dad along as well so he could check out the G2 as well.. So far everything is the same with this one points nice the trigger is around 2 1/2 lbs.. Time to try out the bbls.. Now to my suprise all 4 of my Dads bbls locked up just fine like they were made for it.. I asked the shop owner if he had any other contender bbls handy.. He went in the back and brought out 4 more and these all fit fine as well.. Since we couldnt find one that didnt work on this frame my Dad broke down and bought it... Since then we have shot all his bbls in the new G2 and have yet to have any problems with any of them...

 So after my findings im leaning on a quality control issue.. Give it a year and they will all prolly work like a dream but its just to early now..  

orignally posted by norm.... Talked to my friend this afternoon. His call to T.C. was met with some disbelief and the sugestion to try a new or newer barrel.

Correct me if im wrong but isnt one of the main reasons on building the G2 is so that it could except all the old conteder bbls??? So the thought of T/C sayin oo just use new or newer bbls sounds like a copout to me..

 Ill end with sayin this as for the G2 wait a bit it will get better but if your stuck on having one now take some bbls along and make sure they will work first before buying... As for me im very happy with my Encore and dont see a G2 in the future... As for my Dad he is loving his new toy and have yet to hear him complain about it once....

till next time,
grizz

[Robert]

And I agree, might take a while to work out some of the kinks, but (all sarcasm aside)  I am sure they will.