how about a factory 7-08? i have a 15" stainless model. you can load it a little light to get 7-30 waters performance, or push it to it's potential. 40.gr of h4895 should be close to the 7-30 waters with 120gr nosler bt's. i used that load last year but havn't chronographed it yet. factory ammo options, no brass forming. in the contender, i'd get a 7-30, but in the encore, i'd look real hard at the 7-08. :gun4: