Thanks Pete, I checked into the traditional scope from Winchester Sutler, sent them an email on the 18th, no reply then called em a couple days ago, didn't get much info from the person I talked to, the scope is supposedly made in California, but no other info about it, asked for a brochure or anything I could learn a little more about the scope or the maker, nothing available, the mounts do require gunsmithing, they aren't a bolt on, but the fact that they chose not to respond to my email really turns me off, after I talked them, I got a reply to my email from "Tom", not much more to share. I just don't feel real comfortable spending $330+ on a product that I can't get more info on, so it ain't gonna happen.
Tim