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Offline S.B.

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About LBT Bullets
« on: March 11, 2008, 05:31:25 PM »
Which would be the most accurate in .41 and .44 bullets, the LFN or WFN and would any gas check bullet be even more accurate? If you were going to order a mold which nose would you order? Tell me what your experience has taught you.
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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2008, 05:52:11 PM »
  Is this for "silly wet" shooting,paper punching or hunting? There are different ranges of ACCURACY for each of these uses. Hunting can stand a group of about 2 inches at 100 yards. All you got to do with steel targets is knock them down. Punching paper could be the most demanding as far as accuracy goes.

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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2008, 06:14:45 PM »
As a hunting bullet.
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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2008, 12:03:46 AM »
lfn hands down and if you want the best accuacy add a gas check
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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 07:40:35 AM »
Lloyd x 2.  Mikey.

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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2008, 02:36:22 AM »
No two gun are alike so your going to have to try both, my smith like WFNGC 300grainier. I know they're $$$$ but once you find tune the load...well the rest is history! and just plink with cheap ones.

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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2008, 02:44:19 AM »
Dee, not interested in waisting money, like that. I'll go with what others have had work.
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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2008, 03:52:34 AM »
S.B.

I was one who promoted those WFN bullets as I really could not say enough good things about the Montana Bullet works 265gr wfngc when putting some through my .45's

This Mr. Lloyd Smale along with Mikey and others have really grown on me though as we know that their experience is vast. For that reason, when I do get around to ordering a mold, It will be the
WFN type. I do like the weight class of 265gr or possibly higher.

Part of me still thinks that we cannot really go wrong here. I have shot a bunch of the bargain brand Neoga RNFP along with the comparable (price wise) Meister bullets and they shot Much, Much, better than I ever thought they would as compared to the Jacketed Hornady XTP. I had great luck with the WFN as said and I figure that the LFN is going to be just as good if not better.

While I have been casting for a lot of years for the blkpwder rifle along with cap n balls and one great single shot blkpwder, I do have some dumb questions on casting for the centerfire pistol.
I know that we want a Lube/Sizer and preferably a Star, for lubing and adding that gas check but if we want say a .452 or a .430 mold, are we suppose to order that and then size to the same diameter or get a mold that is slightly larger than this?
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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2008, 05:42:34 AM »
Alloys ratios affect the size of bullets out of the mold, along with many other factors so, I'd buy a mold just a tad bigger than my bore/cylinder throat size, and size to the correct size?
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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2008, 05:57:13 AM »
Alloys ratios affect the size of bullets out of the mold, along with many other factors so, I'd buy a mold just a tad bigger than my bore/cylinder throat size, and size to the correct size?

Sounds quite reasonable to me. A ball cast from hard lead instead of plumbers lead for the powder guns do tend to be slightly oversized and harder to get down the tube. I have some good brews listed in my Lyman #47 on how to proceed. I even have some tin on hand along with a fair amount of shot on hand for the needed Antoni/arsenic content.I figured to drop the cast bullet on a sponge floating in a bucket of water, and have even considered heat treating in the oven although that is a big No No now a day's.

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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2008, 12:49:25 AM »
for the most part that size problem with molds is taken care of for you. Not to many beginning casters buy custom molds and if you buy an over the counter 44 mold or 45 colt mold its going to be slightly over sized. Where you run into trouble sometimes is especially in a 45 colt the chamber throats can run on the large size and that will about insure that you will need a slightly large bullets. Sometimes as big as 454 and not every over the counter mold is going to have an as cast size as big as that. But the good thing is that most molds all-ready come a tad bigger and allow for it and like SB said you can adjust size a little bit by alloying or adding tin to your mix. Bottom line is this casting stuff sure isnt rocket science. Lots of people are scared to start it because they read the technical stuff that experienced casters post about. dont let in scare you. Most of casting is just basic common sense and safety practices and you can make decent bullets the first day you cast even with basic equiptment.
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Re: About LBT Bullets
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2008, 03:47:54 AM »
Thanks Lloyd
I have a few hundred pounds of the soft lead on hand and have also been collecting wheel weights all winter long.
I have been casting for several years for the blackpowder but never for handguns or rifles where a Lube/sizer is used.

I figure to get a decent mold to start out with...I have a few earmarked like your 300gr RCBS mold but also am considering the
two cavity LBT mold from Veral. LFN as said.