Agree---but don't try those loads in a Smith&Wesson--I have owned a Black Hawk since 1967, and have reloaded for it for many years--when my wife bought a Smith I took it out into the back yard to try it out at my shooting range--low and behold--the empties were a little hard to eject--after 12 rounds I quit---and I don't try to load hot loads for the Black Hawk, just a good accurate moderate load.