Author Topic: 35 Rem factory ammo. (Read 1112 times)

markc · « **on:** December 12, 2002, 07:14:13 AM »

Seems like I've read where factory .35 Rem ammo sometimes does not go off in a TC barrell. Any truth to that, and would you get enough expansion with factory ammo out of a 12" or 14" barrell to work well on deer/hogs? Thanks
markc

Crayfish · « **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2002, 04:14:34 AM »

I've got one of those misfiring 35Rems :evil: !!! I think I'm getting close to getting my handloads to work (or at least close to ditching or rechambering it!!!). The only thing that has truly worked in this barrel is Federal Classic 200gr RN factory ammo. These shoot very well and, most importantly, go off EVERY time. They average 1.25" at 100yds off a bench and clock around 1980fps thru my chrono. I'd have no qualms shooting a deer out to at least 150yds with these loads.

I'd really like to get my handloads to work with 180gr Speer FN bullets. By loading the Federal once-fired brass I've managed to get them to go off every time now, but I've heard that the case capacity of the Federal's is very low. Even my starting loads are showing pressure signs. I'm going to have to look at other powders to see if this is just this combo I've got or what?

Anyway ... I hope this helps! Crayfish

Sixgun · « **Reply #2 on:** December 13, 2002, 05:13:50 AM »

I had trouble getting my hornet to fire every time. There was no strike at all on the primer of those that didn't go off. I was useing Winchester brass and one of the things that I checked was the thickness of the rim. The rims that were thicker would cause the internal mechanism to not allow the fireing pin to strike the primer. I proved this by rubbing some of the thick rims with a file and they worked fine. I switched to Remington brass and had no more problems.

I more recently had the same type of misfires with my 30-30 barrel. I was useing mixed headstamp brass with that barrel and further testing showed that most of my problem was from Winchester brass again and fileing it fixed the problem.

I can now tell by looking at the round after it is chambered, all the way, if it will go off. I can just hold it off to the side and if anything is higher than the edge of the barrel, it isn't going to fire. I think that even with the rimless cartridges, if the headspace is not perfect, you could have the same problem. If any of the case or primer stickes out past the chamber of the barrel, It ain't gonna shoot.

Sixgun

Frog123 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 13, 2002, 05:34:38 AM »

Boy do I now consider myself very lucky. I've got a 14" .35 Rem barrel also and I've (knock on wood) never experienced any of the problems that the rest of you seem to be having. My biggest problem is just hitting what I'm shooting at. The gun sand bags great and shoots the factory Remington 150gr psp's and 200gr sp's equaly well but let me take the gun to the field and shoot at a deer and I might as well be throwing the bullet by hand at 'em. I'm seriously considering having the barrel cut back and recrowned, but these are my woes.

Frog

Crayfish · « **Reply #4 on:** December 13, 2002, 06:32:50 AM »

Sixgun - Believe me, I've been all thru that kind of stuff. None of the problems you had were what I have going on with the 35Rem. I get primer strikes every time. It doesn't appear to be a hammer-block problem. All other barrels shoot just fine on the same frame (incl. rimmed and rimless rounds). If I keep trying, every round will eventually go off. Some take up to 3 or 4 tries to get them to finally go. Great practice to make sure you don't have the flinches :roll: !!!!

All rounds fall flush with the rear of the barrel and there is only 0.004" gap between the frame and barrel ... shouldn't be enough to have misfire problems. Even once fired brass (other than Federal) doesn't go off every time. I've thought of getting a .375" tapered expander and making a false shoulder to take up the 0.004" gap, but haven't gotten there yet.

Other than that I'm at a loss .... like I said, it's either get rid of it or get it rechambered. It is kind of a unique barrel in that it has no crown. The end of the barrel is perfectly flat with just a slight chamfer at the ends of the rifling. It is marked "Super 14" and measures 14", so it hasn't been cut down which was my first thought. It shoots fine (some 180gr reloads, when they go off, have been WAY less than an inch ... 3 holes in a cute little cloverleaf).

Just venting my frustrations! ... Crayfish

markc · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2002, 07:57:17 AM »

Thanks for the responses guys. I seldom see a used .35 Rem barrell around my parts, but might try and pick one up the next time I see one.
markc :-)

foodaddy11 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2002, 09:34:52 AM »

i have a 14" 35 rem barrel that has been cut back to 10" and recrowned. it was done before i bought it so i dont know if it was due to poor grouping or not. i have tried 3 boxes of rem factory ammo and had mis-fires in 2 of them. once i started handloading my 35 has gone off every time i pull the trigger. the hornady 180 gr hollow points shoot well from mine(1.5 " at a lasered distance of 149 yards) and are lots of fun. they do tend to make things blow up!