Years ago late 60s or early 70s their was a Gunshop in Michigan named Irve's I believe the name was, well they had a Indoor range in the basement, well the regulars knew you wer not to shoot Magnum revolvers down there, however on evening I was in there when someone let loose with a model 29 with full house loads, I cant remember ever seeing old man Irv go down those stairs so fast to get the fellow up those stairs and show him the front door, JIM