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300 Savage Load Recipe
« on: March 06, 2008, 02:39:14 AM »
I'm going to develop a load for a Savage Model99 in 300 Savage. Anyone have a load recipe that yields good results? I'm thinking of trying the 130 grain Hornady SP since one of my manuals suggests using flat base bullets because of the short neck of the 300 Savage case. If the 130 grainers don't shoot well I would then try 150 grains pellets.
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Re: 300 Savage Load Recipe
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2008, 01:18:52 PM »
My model 99 loves IMR 4895 39.1 grains and 150 grain bullets either sierra game kings which are boat tails and Remington core lokts.  I tried every type of powder with 125 grain bullets and got nowhere. I would suggest trying the 150's first. The rate if twist in the 300 savage is conducive to heavier bullets
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Re: 300 Savage Load Recipe
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2008, 06:38:59 AM »
Bubba,
Thanks for the response. I ordered some 130 grain Hornady SPs because one of the reloading manuals recommended flat base bullets due to the short neck length of the 300 Savage brass. I am going to try the 130s first to try and get a faster muzzle velocity than can be achieved with the 150s which seem to be about 2500 fps. Do the boat tails work OK for you? I will also try some 150 grain Nosler BTs or Hornady SSTs which are boat tails if you tell me that the boat tails work fine in the 300 Savage.
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Re: 300 Savage Load Recipe
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2008, 06:55:05 AM »
I think the flat based bullets are a good idea.  I shoot 150gr Core Lokts from my bolt action .300Sav in front of a load of Varget. I didn't do much load development.  I only tried one or two combinations and got what I wanted and quit.
In the performance window of the .300Sav, the Core Lokt bullet does very well.  I'm sure any good cup and core bullet will.  I just happen to like Core Lokts. 
I haven't Chronied my load for the Savage. But then, I rarely Chrony a hunting load as I'd hate to disappoint a game animal with a sub standard load. Speed wasn't what I was looking for when I bought the .300. :D  So far I've killed 3 deer with it and its worked well. 

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Re: 300 Savage Load Recipe
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2008, 10:55:07 AM »
I have great luck with the boat tails and I have great luck with the Remington core lokts which are a flat based bullet. I would have to say that I get a little better accuracy with the boat tails.  I get 1 1/2 groups at 100 yards.  I do not shoot mine a lot because it was an inheritance from my father and I do not want to do any damage to it.  I take out out to the range a few times a year and hunt with it a couple times a year, which allows me to sit and look at it and think of my dad.  Anyway I have not had problems with the boat tails, but I have just as good luck with flat based bullets.  I tried core lokts in 125 grain and I could not stabilize them at all.  When My dad hunted with the rifle, he used winchester  180 grain silvertips exclusively and had great results with them also. 
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Re: 300 Savage Load Recipe
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 05:33:19 AM »
Barrel twist might come into play here. A lot of the older rifles were set up for the heavier bullets.  I would imagine the 165's would be a good split the difference weight.  In fact, I think I'll try some. :D I've got enough, for sure, 'cause that's what I shoot in my '06.

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Re: 300 Savage Load Recipe
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2008, 07:06:52 AM »
 My Dad gave me his Remington 722 in .300 Savage  about thirty years ago.  In addition there were two other .300 Savages in the house, a model 99, model 81 Remington.  The majority of deer kill during the early years was with the Remington 150-grain C-L, or 150-grain Bronze Point.  The success rate was high with those bullets. 

A friend’s Dad was a County trapper and he carried a 300 Savage and used 130-grain Hornady Spire Pt hand loads.  As I recalled he pushed them with surplus 4895.

When the M722 became mine, I spent a lot of time on load development, and practice.  Part of it came about because I changed scopes a couple of times.  I had my concerns towards loading the .300 Savage because of all the talk about how difficult it was to load the short neck cartridge.  And as a kid I never saw anybody loading the case having any difficulties.  I started out loading two different bullets 150-grain Speer and the 150-grain Hornady.  I also tried two different powders IMR4320 and IMR4064.  I preferred the results of IMR4064 and have not loaded with 4320 since the first testing.

In the 1990’s I again started cranking out a lot of .300 Savage ammunition adding into the mix AA2015BR with 150-grain bullets and three different 165-grain bullets.  I had found the 165-grain bullet effective in the 30-06, and when my hunting partner put them to use there was meat on table.  I no longer had a 30-06 but I had a very good supply of 165-grain Nosler PT, Hornady 165-grain Boattails and Hornaday flat base, and 165-grain Remington CL.  A little bit of logic came forth in the knowledge that the standard factory bullets for the 300 Savage are the 150-grain and the longer 180-grain. 

I use the same charge of IMR4064 with all four bullets.  They basically shot into the same group at a 100 yards, then the Boattail becomes a little flatter followed by the Nosler PT, and then the Remington C-L. 



L to R Nosler PT, Remington C-L, Hornady Boattail 165 grain bullets.




When loading I use standard large rifle primers.  I use a long drop tube when charging the case because my load slightly compresses the powder.  A reason for not having a problem maybe in case preparation, I always make sure the cases a trimmed to the same length and the neck is chamfered inside and out.  (The Lee chamfering tool always leaves a polished ring on the body of the case.)

The Nosler Partition is not called for in the 300 Savage, but I have them and I use them.  The down side to using 165-grain bullets is they exit and you have not bullet to take a picture of.  The buck I shot with the Partition this year was hit on the front edge of the front shoulder the bullet continued into the neck hitting the spine, and exited the center on the far side.  The rapid expansions of the front portion of the bullet created hemorrhaging all the way back to the flank on the entrance side on a large buck. 

Now days I am not interested in taking a bear because nobody will eat it, but I still encounter bear while out hunting.  I feel my 165-grain load will do a good job on a bear.  Having seen the exit hole the 165-grain bullet creates in a deer is the primary reason it is my bullet of choice.  The slight amount of energy lost out the far side is more then made up by a good blood trail.  All three bullets are accurate, but I rate the Hornady Flat Base first.  The best over all value when loading for the .300 Savage is bulk 165 grain Remington C-L.  Last time around I bought 500 C-L.

Since 1979 I have load approximately six-hundred and fifty .300 Savage rounds, using approximately four pounds of powder.  Currently I am recreating 7.62 cases into .300 Savage.  This batch will be using 150-grain Nosler Balistic Tips, pushed by AA2015 powder.  The purpose is off hand shoting drills and a little coyote hunting. :)



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Re: 300 Savage Load Recipe
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2008, 08:05:38 AM »
  I shoot 150 and 165gr Sierra Soft Point Boat Tails out of my Remington 722 and it loves them pushed by a nice healthy load of IMR4064. It shoots well with 42gr. of 4064 and somewhat hotter than listed max. with the 165's. I have had none of the problems I was told I'd have due to the "short neck" of the case. I have tried many many bullets in this rifle, trying to find the magical one and I guess the Sierras and Hornadys are the ones. If I do my part, this gun with it's grey pitted barrel will group 4 or 5 those Sierras in a little one hole cluster. Yea I'm bragging on this gun that my father passed on to me also. I love the round and was thinking of getting a new barrel for my Savage in the .300 sav.
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