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Offline SuperKirby

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Bullet/sabot question
« on: March 02, 2008, 10:22:41 AM »
Hi, I'm kind of new to muzzleloading, and so far all I've ever used is powerbelts.  I was thinking about trying out some different loads, but I didn't know where to start.  With all the options out there, how do you narrow down bullets/sabots to ones that are worthy of trying out without wasting a lot of money?  What do you look for?  Thanks for the help.

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Re: Bullet/sabot question
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2008, 08:00:10 AM »
You didnt mention caliber, so I'll assume a.50.I'd begin with either .430 or .452 caliber Hornady XTP's in 240 grain( .430's) or 250( .452's) and modest charges of Triple 7( loose powder).As far as sabots I've had my best results with Harvester brand.My Omega Z5 shoots 3 shot 100 yard groups of 1 inch or less with regularity, with a .430 240gr XTP in Harvester sabots over 70gr 3f Triple 7. Velocity is 1725 fps.She does , however, get spooky with the .430 300 gr XTP , same sabot, over 80gr 3f triple 7. 1660 fps and her smallest 3 rounder at 100 was 3/16 inch center to center. One of the most important things you  can do for best accuracy is to clean the bore between every shot.Good luck.I'm here if you need more help.
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Re: Bullet/sabot question
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 04:40:30 AM »
Sorry about not enough information.  I'll be shooting a .50 cal Knight KRB7.  I live/hunt in WY in areas that are pretty open, so I need accuracy out to 100 yards at least, preferably 150 yards.  Don't know if that changes anything or not.

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Re: Bullet/sabot question
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 07:53:56 AM »
I always had great luck with the Shockwaves in either 300 grain or 250 either bonded or not.  They shoot great out to 100 yds and I've taken deer from 5 yds to 100 yds.  New to this forum but still on one of the other popular ones.

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Re: Bullet/sabot question
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 04:56:55 AM »
Well, got my KRB7 yesterday.  It's a pretty sweet gun.  I was messing around a little with the few bullets that I have, and it looks like I'm going to be pretty limited.  The bullet/sabots that came with the gun won't go down the barrel at all.  I had some Shockwaves that I may or may not be able to get down the barrel.  And powerbelts were a perfect fit.  I think I'm going to stick with them for now until I can try out some conicals.  Being somewhat new to MLers, I've never really messed around with conicals at all.  Is there anything you do different with them?  Thanks for the help.

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Re: Bullet/sabot question
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 07:07:09 AM »
From all the reports the KRB is a good conical shooter. Dont push those PBs with more than 90 grns of powder and they should be fine.

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Re: Bullet/sabot question
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 05:53:42 PM »
Use the PowerBelts for fishing weights...Out there you need a streamlined bullet that will be fairly flat shooting...That's a 250 Shockwave or a DeadCenter....I have a Knight Disc and have run test with the PowerBelt, they just have too much drop...Use 90-110 grs of Pyrodex R-S, sight in 2 1/2 inches high at 100 yards and you will hit 2-3 inches low at 150...

Make sure you clean the barrel between shots and I bet the Shockwaves will group well...Being new, I would take someone to the range to help because what you might think is a tight fit in the barrel might be just right...If you do need thinner sabots then Del Ramsey has a MMP-24, but initially, I'd stick with what comes in the package...

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Re: Bullet/sabot question
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2008, 04:44:42 AM »
Forget the Powerbelts, the fact that they load "easy' is their downfall. For a bullet to be accurate it must be a tight fit. You must experiment with different powder weights, bullet types and weights and sabots. Sorry, but there is no easy way or answer. Use peoples suggestions as a starting point, but any "new gun" must go through this procedure to obtain maximum accuracy. Besides that's part of the fun of shooting muzzleloaders or shooting any firearm for that matter. Just my opinion, but do have fun and good luck.
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