Author Topic: Why Less Corn  (Read 919 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline DDelle338

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 306
  • Gender: Male
Why Less Corn
« on: April 01, 2008, 02:23:46 AM »
  Some of you may farm and I'm sure some of you know farmers.
  I heard last night, but didn't hear why, that there is going to be alot less corn planted by american farmers this year. I'm wondering why. We do have some more ethanal plants trying to produce, we still eat the same amount or more. We are still feeding livestock, and exporting it. Anybody know why we are planting less?
Life's a Bitch, But the puppies are cute.

Offline Graybeard

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (69)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26944
  • Gender: Male
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2008, 03:42:15 AM »
Been wondering about that here locally for the past several years. The fields I pass on my way to town regularly have been planted to cotton now for at least the last 4-5 years. They used to have corn or wheat or often both with a winter wheat crop followed by planting of corn as soon as the wheat was harvested. Now it seems all they plant is cotton. Soy beans is another crop that used to be planted in those same fields on some alternation schedule that seems to be ignored now for cotton.


Bill aka the Graybeard
President, Graybeard Outdoor Enterprises
256-435-1125

I am not a lawyer and do not give legal advice.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life anyone who believes in Him will have everlasting life!

Offline beemanbeme

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2587
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2008, 03:43:49 AM »
Don't know. I thought corn to gas was a big thing.  But soy beans are more of an international crop.  If I still lived in Okla, I'll bet I could find out.  

Offline Questor

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7075
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2008, 04:08:06 AM »
Weather and prices drive it. I don't know the details of your area but if there's been a lot of wet weather well into spring the past few years (as there has been in parts of the South) then farmers will be shy about planting corn. For corn to be economical as an ethanol crop farmers need ethanol plants not only near by, but with good transportation to the plant.

(By the way, you may have read or heard that it takes more than a gallon of fuel to make a gallon of ethanol. Interestingly, that's true. What makes ethanol production feasible is the sale of the by-products of production, like animal feed. That makes it profitable on average about 7 out of 11 years, in Minnesota anyway.)

Overall, corn production in the US dropped about 8% last year over previous year.  I'm not sure of how it was divided, but part of it was weather, and part of it was a big increase in the price of soy, which made soy a more lucrative crop.


Safety first

Offline S.S.

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2840
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2008, 04:51:14 AM »
corn is not a drought resistant crop, in the south we are still in a pretty bad drought.
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
"A wise man does not pee against the wind".

Offline flintlock

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1405
  • Gender: Male
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2008, 05:22:31 AM »
Soybeans and cotton are more profitable than corn....

From what I have heard, making ethanol from corn is not cost efficient...

Offline Moss88hunter

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 132
  • Gender: Male
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2008, 06:02:48 AM »
S.S. is right last summer was hard and ruined our crop. We will try it again but might end up switching to something else if history repeats itself.

Evan
"It is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six!"

Offline dukkillr

  • Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3428
    • The Daily Limit
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2008, 08:39:27 AM »
Much of the above is either incorrect or misleading.  The acres planted in corn last year was a post WWII record.  This year it is projected to be somewhat lower.  That may yet change, particularly depending on the weather.

Offline rex6666

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2332
  • Gender: Male
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2008, 09:19:56 AM »
I don't think their will less corn planted in TX, it is mostly sold to "FRITO-LAY" so eat mo fritos ;D
Rex
GOD GUNS and GUTS MADE AMERICA GREAT

Texas is good for men and dogs, but it is hell on women and horses.

Offline PartsMan

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1351
  • Gender: Male
  • Proud Handi Owner
    • myspace
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2008, 10:22:46 AM »
The wheat price is way high. Nothing else planted around here this year.

Offline flintlock

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1405
  • Gender: Male
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2008, 10:30:51 AM »
Partsman...They'll plant late beans behind that wheat, might start knocking on doors...I love to hunt over beans... :)

Offline PartsMan

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1351
  • Gender: Male
  • Proud Handi Owner
    • myspace
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2008, 11:39:05 AM »
Partsman...They'll plant late beans behind that wheat, might start knocking on doors...I love to hunt over beans... :)

Not usually around here.
Our rain fall and soil can only handle one crop a year.
Some guys will sneak in 3 crops in 2 years but that's pushing it.

Deer do love beans though.
I am very lucky. My family farms or ranches about 2k acres. I don't knock on doors.
I leave that to guys that have to to hunt. No need to get greedy.

Offline Hairtrigger

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2010
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2008, 12:00:54 PM »
When they call us asking us to report our acreage, the answer depends on how bad I want to screw with the person asking me all of the annoying questions on how much of what we are planting.


Offline clodbuster

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 551
  • Gender: Male
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2008, 12:47:38 PM »
Here in Iowa where the corn and soybeans are grown, typicallly 14mm ac corn and 10mm ac soybeans, the growers are staying pretty close to the same as last year.  both commodities are selling at excellent prices for farmers but corn takes much higher input costs than beans.  Farmers in the cornbelt typically plant their land 50-50 between the two crops and changing from this takes away the advantage gained when they plant corn on land that grew soybeans last year.  (Fewer pests to deal with and less fertilizer needed)  Year in and out growers are reluctant to change this and government farm programs encourage crop acreage stability.  I don't look for that big a change.   Oh yeah as far as cotton goes, growers need a lot of specialized equipment to grow it and a gin at harvest.  All this commitment means "in for a penny in for a pound" and at the current price of $.70 a pound they are just above cost of production.
Preserve the Loess Hills!!!

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2008, 03:42:52 PM »
Theres supposed to be an ethanol plant built about 15 miles from here. Good corn crop last year, but the drought cost a lot of soybeans. I saw 4 fields of beans in about 15 miles that was never harvested last year due to poor quality and high fuel costs. POWDERMAN.  :( :(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline torpedoman

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2574
  • Gender: Male
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2008, 05:42:51 PM »
there used to be ethanol plants all over the hills but the feds cut them.
the nation that forgets it defenders will itself be forgotten

Offline Hairtrigger

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2010
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2008, 01:35:31 AM »
Other crops are making good money as well. Add to that the costs to plant an acre of corn is higher than beans or wheat.

Offline victorcharlie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3573
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2008, 03:27:54 PM »
Much of the above is either incorrect or misleading.  The acres planted in corn last year was a post WWII record.  This year it is projected to be somewhat lower.  That may yet change, particularly depending on the weather.

Yep....I've read a few articles that indicate the same.......
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Tolerance in the face of tyranny is no virtue."
Barry Goldwater

Offline Hooker

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1581
Re: Why Less Corn
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2008, 05:32:11 PM »
We already been through the corn ethanol government subsidies fiasco here once. It left a lot of folks broke and up to their eye balls in hock.
It's bad politics and will destroy whats left of our already tattered economy. To say nothing of the fact that it wont work. There are better fuels that are cheaper to produce yet our government wants to thrash this dead horse again. Less corn may mean some folks are wising up.

Pat
" In the beginning of change, the patriot is a brave and scarce man,hated and scorned. when the cause succeeds however,the timid join him...for then it cost nothing to be a patriot. "
-Mark Twain
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms."
-- Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356