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Offline jay29

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Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« on: March 21, 2008, 04:21:50 PM »
I have heard from numerous places this is the way to go. Ditch the leather and use lead instead. I have read from Church Hawks site that leather acts like a cushion on the flint while lead does not and that is better...Anyone use lead? Where did you get lead sheets for the flint?????....Also where is the best place to buy English flint? I have been bitten HARD by the flintlock bug...I have the LYMAN GPR, .50 Flint...

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Re: Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2008, 04:37:34 PM »
I've always like leather best, lead will work, but I didn't care for it. You can hammer a round ball flat to try it. Never had a GPR and haven't bought a flint in over 10yrs, so can't help ya there.

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Re: Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2008, 06:01:00 PM »
I use the 3/4" x 3/4" square English flints from Track of The Wolf in my Great Plains.

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I also use a lead wrap.  As quickdtoo said, just hammer a ball flat.  You want it pretty thin- about a thick as a fingernail, maybe slightly thicker.  Then just cut it to size with scissors.  Keep it small, just a little wider than the jaws of the cock.  Doesn't cost anything to try and see if you like it better than leather.
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Re: Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2008, 07:48:55 PM »
track of the wolf is out. They'll have more 3/4" flints in a month and a half.  Found out the hard way when i went to order some for my GPR.

Lead works very nice. I prefer it over leather, but leather works fine.

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Re: Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2008, 04:10:43 AM »






 i dont use lead but prefer leather . I have tried lead but in my rifles it doesn’t hold  well .
 I also don’t think leather would make any more of a cushion then lead . Either your flint is tight or its not . If its not , its going to move .

 I considered this flint  shortage a couple years back  when tom fuller handed over things to his apprentice. So at that time I bought  1000 flints  just in case .
 Many of the small traders like mountain top  trading out still has flints .
 One of the fellas , Sniper68 over on the Traditional Muzzleloading Association  public web site  forum sells some of the best I have seen in a long while . Much better then the quality provided through TOW  now .
 i dont have an address for him but you can contact him through the TMA public forum , im sure

 The other  option is French amber . But some locks like the ambers and others don’t .  I find that in  a couple of my rifles , the ambers will out last the  English flints some time 3 to 1.
But the key to the ambers is learning to read whats a good  one and whats not . The same though could be said for the English flints though to ..

 But  the nice thing about the flintlock is that you don’t need to by   flints  and can make your own
 This would include  actual gun flints or just spalls . There are any number of books on the subject  as well as internet recourses. When you get an idea of the process and what your looking for ,, well suddenly  you will see why some folks stayed with the flintlock  even after caplocks had came and gone

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Re: Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2008, 09:52:19 AM »
I use lead.  I started out using leather but had trouble keeping the flint tight.  Since I changed to lead I haven't had any trouble with the flint getting loose.
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Re: Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2008, 01:26:55 PM »
I get my flints from RMC they handle all muzzle loader supplies.  www.rmcsports.com
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Re: Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2008, 01:34:25 PM »
When I first got into the hobby an oldtimer told me "don't use lead, it'll break your cock".  That was enough for me.  I don't use it.  He explained that the additional weight put too much strain on the cast metal parts that modern locks are made from.  The leather reduces the shock transmitted to the lock parts too.
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Re: Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2008, 02:08:27 PM »
I use leather : I read that some after market  lock makers will void the warranty on there lock if lead is used (L@R)

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Re: Flint wrapped in lead instead of leather.....
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2008, 02:28:13 PM »
Here's one man's comparison, he found virtually no difference.

Looks like there mey be some other good stuff on the site as well. ;)

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