Kody -- I second your motion, if Mr. Graybeard is listening. BTW, is that a VW Thing in your avatar pic? You're a luck man if you have one of those weird little bugs in good shape. It has occurred to me that the VW Thing was a poor-man's SUV long before anyone thought there would be four-buck gas. It's what we need -- simple, bulletproof air-cooled four-banger, simple gearbox, 2WD with fair ground clearance and the engine weight over the drive wheels. I don't want a luxurious interior, GPS, wireless internet, and 12 cupholders in my hunting car. I just want something I can afford to own, that will make it over logging roads, and simple enough to fix myself.