whats it worth

[Lloyd Smale]

Buddy just dropped off a 1917 remington some rust on barrel and action but bore is great and so is the stock. Any idea what the value is.

[Mikey]

Lloyd:  It's worth enough to keep and restore.  I think the 1917 Remington is the sporting model of the P-17 Enfield line (I think, I think), but I'm not sure.  I do recall reading that they are robust, as is the P-17.  Look at it this way, if you ever wanted to sporterize a P17 Enfield, you've managed to obtain one already done fer ya.  I would enjoy it first.  06 caliber, right?  Mikey.

[Lloyd Smale]

definitly looks like a military gun not a sporter.

Lloyd:  It's worth enough to keep and restore.  I think the 1917 Remington is the sporting model of the P-17 Enfield line (I think, I think), but I'm not sure.  I do recall reading that they are robust, as is the P-17.  Look at it this way, if you ever wanted to sporterize a P17 Enfield, you've managed to obtain one already done fer ya.  I would enjoy it first.  06 caliber, right?  Mikey.

[savageT]

Lloyd S,
From everything I can find, Remington-Eddystone Arsonal made the M1917 model (U.S. version of the P1914 Enfield in .303) chambered in U.S. 30-06 as did Winchester for U.S. Troops in WWI.

When they came out with the sporterized version as the Model 30A Bolt-Action Express Rifle as a modified M/1917 Enfield action.
Calibers were 25, 30, 35 Remington, 7mm Mauser, 30-06, 5-shot magazine.  22-inch bbl....$445
M30R carbine w/ 20-inch bbl......$475
M30S Sporting Rifle in 257 Roberts, 7mm Mauser, 30-06, 24-inch bbl.....$545

Can't seem to find much on military version.


Jim

[Mikey]

Jim:  Thanks for clarifying that.  I saw an article on it recently but just couldn't remember the Model # they referenced.  How U?  All is well I hope.  

Lloyd:  gee, if that's a 1917 it would be worth more to me to keep it, unless you just want a value on it.  Those are great rifles and super strong actions.  I had a Winchester made P17 once with an Ordinance  barrel stamp of 3/18.  She preferred the biggest and heaviest loads I could cook up for it.  Although she was 'robust' shall we say, the extra weight and strength gave me a lot more confidence in the caliber than I needed.  I would enjoy it.  

Oh, BTW, with mine and the original barrel she would outshoot a lot of the newer and supposedly more powerful rifles.  If I had to do it over again and felt I needed or wanted  to rebarrel it, I would opt for one with the original rifling and twist.  Mikey.

[roberthonike]

If I remember right Remington made commercial guns on this action as Model 30. Basically they made it with a round top action and put it in a sporter stock. They are one fine rifle.

[savageT]

Lloyd,
Finally located the information on the military 1917:

U.S. Model 1917 Enfield Military Rifle....$395 (but I believe worth more)
Modified Mauser-type bolt action.  Caliber  30-06, 5-shot magazine, 26 inch bbl. Weight 9.25 lbs.  Sights: adj. rear; blade front w/ guards.  Military-type stock w/semi-pistol grip.  Design originated in Great Britain as their "Pattern 14", and was mfd. in caliber .303 for the British Govt. in three U.S. Plants.  In 1917 the U.S. Govt. contracted w/ these firms to produce the same rifle in caliber 30-06; over two million of these Model 1917 Enfields were mfd. While no more were produced after WWI, the U.S. supplied over a million of them to Great Britain during WWII.
Mfd. 1917-18 by Remington Arms Co. of Deleware (later Midvale Steel & Ordnance Co.), Eddystone, PA; Remington Arms Co. Ilion, NY; Winchester Repeating Arms Co., New Haven, VT.



Jim

[Lloyd Smale]

sounds like you found it as it does have a semi pistol grip stock. Thanks pal.

Lloyd,
Finally located the information on the military 1917:

U.S. Model 1917 Enfield Military Rifle....$395 (but I believe worth more)
Modified Mauser-type bolt action.  Caliber  30-06, 5-shot magazine, 26 inch bbl. Weight 9.25 lbs.  Sights: adj. rear; blade front w/ guards.  Military-type stock w/semi-pistol grip.  Design originated in Great Britain as their "Pattern 14", and was mfd. in caliber .303 for the British Govt. in three U.S. Plants.  In 1917 the U.S. Govt. contracted w/ these firms to produce the same rifle in caliber 30-06; over two million of these Model 1917 Enfields were mfd. While no more were produced after WWI, the U.S. supplied over a million of them to Great Britain during WWII.
Mfd. 1917-18 by Remington Arms Co. of Deleware (later Midvale Steel & Ordnance Co.), Eddystone, PA; Remington Arms Co. Ilion, NY; Winchester Repeating Arms Co., New Haven, VT.



Jim

[Robert]

The Remingtons are a lot better than the Eddys, and are popular for rebarelling to many of the Big Bores.  If yours has the original barrel, it will have a left-hand twist.  Those rifles can throw a big chunk of lead out to 1/4 mile or more very accurately.