45/70 Buffalo Classic Accuracy?

[teddy12b]

Hello Everyone,
            Years ago I almost bought one of these and I have always wondered what kind of accuracy people get from these rifles?  I figure the 32" barrel has to help quite a bit even though it's a lot to hold up.  What kind of distances do you guys like to shoot with these?  I'm just curious. 

[quickdtoo]

Plenty accurate, more so than I can shoot with an aperture sight and my old eyes!! Bernie does excellent with his out to 800yds, I've only shot mine at 100yds, with the Williams FP target sight, I can keep em inside 1½", and with a scope inside an inch.

Tim

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/smf/index.php/topic,90738.msg553363.html#msg553363

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/smf/index.php/topic,91113.msg555542.html#msg555542

[Bear Rider]

How is it with REAL gunpowder instead of petroleum byproducts? 

[quickdtoo]

There are a few here that shoot black powder in their BCs, I don't in either my .45-70 or .45-120 BCs since it costs as much as smokeless and I need to use more of it. Check out the BPCR forum and Single Shot Rifle forums, there are posts there on em, the search feature is disabled or I would point out some posts for ya. Junior Doughty shoots Goex in his Handi, it's a good read. You can also search the Member's List at the bottom of the index for The Montanan's posts, he has several threads on the subject. He has some links on his page for BPCR shooting.

Tim

http://www.castbullet.com/shooting/1871.htm

http://buffaloclassic.tripod.com/

[Bear Rider]

Thanks, Tim.

In accordance with Murphy's Law, I got my B/C just before the changeover,  so I haven't been able to find much on here on either the B/C or on the Lyman 310 reloader that I hope to use. I found the information that I needed about the reloader, but I am still looking for information on loading. Your pointers are most helpful.

[dodd3]

tedy12b and bear rider    the lyman 310 was good for black powder loads in the old days when the cases held more powder.but if you wont to load black powder in the modern 45/70 case then  you wont get 70 of black in it with out a drop tube and a compresion die, i use a lee cast iron press lee dies with an extra expander die and a powder compresion plug from track of the wolf. if you wont help with loading for black give me a pm and i will tell you what you need to get so you can do it rite only to glad to help.bernie

[Bear Rider]

dodd3,

It's not really about how much powder you can stuff in a case -- it's about consistency.

Besides, if I ever get the urge to burn more power, I can always ream it out to .45-90 or .45-120. The lyman kit will reload those as well, IIRC.

[dodd3]

Bear Rider if you shoot heavy bullets like i do in the buff classic 500 grn up then i want as much black as i can fit in the case, 70 grn of wano fff and a 512 grn bullet gets me close to 1300fps and very accurat as well i have tride a lot of difrent loads in black with and with out compression and the 70 load is the most accurat to date as accurat as my smokeless load's with a very low shot to shot velosity.i have it down to an average of 9fps  i think that is pritty good .
bernie

[jamaldog87]

well Col. Craig boddington ogguns& ammo shot his with ghost rings got 3 to 4 inches at 100 yards open sights with 300 gr winchester loads, 405gr,400gr and 365gr. he got the best with 300gr winchester jacked hollow points.(june 2002 bison buster)

[Bear Rider]

tedy12b and bear rider    the lyman 310 was good for black powder loads in the old days when the cases held more powder.but if you wont to load black powder in the modern 45/70 case then  you wont get 70 of black in it with out a drop tube and a compresion die, i use a lee cast iron press lee dies with an extra expander die and a powder compresion plug from track of the wolf. if you wont help with loading for black give me a pm and i will tell you what you need to get so you can do it rite only to glad to help.bernie

After some experimentation, it appears that it would be very easy to make a portable drop tube that could be taken to the range or anywhere else. Internally, it should be only a matter of making the joint(s) between the section(s) smooth enough to avoid disrupting the flow. Disassembled, a drop tube is a pretty small collection of tubes. The big problem is finding a small powder scale. I think that I have old scale around that will fit into a box about the size of a 100 round .45ACP container.