Author Topic: Rebore (Read 5307 times)

boomerdog · « **on:** March 28, 2008, 08:07:15 AM »

Anyone have any experience with having a barrel rebored? How did it turn out? Money well spent, or better off just rebarreling?

300S+W · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2008, 12:49:27 PM »

I'm waiting for responses from 3 shops . When I get my ducks in a row and am ready to send this thing off I'll post some info. Meanwhile here's a couple of good reads for ya. www.cutrifle.com www.deltagunshop.com

til later

Rangr44 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2008, 03:53:58 PM »

A friend had a .243 Winchester 100 rebored out to .358 that worked out great.

The result was a rifle the factory never made - a .358 Winchester 100 Auto. Unobtainium, well worth the cost - and no barrel available to buy, in that case.

I suppose, if you already had a replacement barrel for cheap $$$, it would cost less than a rebore - but you wouldn't necessarily have the original barrel markings, either.

Where most folks err, is in getting a little carried away, IMHO - like not only reboring, but also rechambering to (say) a belted magnum case, which leads to bolt face and feed rail work, etc, etc, forever and ever.

If the arm is rebored to a larger caliber, using the same basic case, it's very cost-effective, indeed.

300S+W · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2008, 04:05:55 PM »

Good to know that much of a rebore worked out. I'm going from .25-06 to 9.3x62.

til later

canon6 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 01, 2008, 11:15:32 AM »

I had a NEF 223 re bored to 7x30 Waters and I could not be happier, Doug

StrawHat · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2008, 03:04:11 PM »

I have now had three rifles rebored and one revolver.

I am pleased with all of them.

Unfortunately I have used three barrelsmiths and need to find another.

The older ones are passing on and no one filling their shoes.

Have you chosen someone to do the work yet?

300S+W · « **Reply #6 on:** April 03, 2008, 04:12:57 PM »

Well,I've sent e-mails to two shops and a letter to another as they had no web sight. I haven't gotten a response yet but it's only been not quite 2wks. Hope I hear something soon! What was the average turn around time on your rebores?

til later

quickdtoo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 03, 2008, 05:43:10 PM »

I've had 2 done, a 338-06 A-square from a 26" H&R Ultra 25-06 and a 405 Winchester from a 28" H&R Target 38-55, both done by Wayne York of Oregunsmithing, you can count on 6-8 weeks normally, he does excellent work.

Tim

http://home.earthlink.net/~oregunsmithing/index.html

300S+W · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2008, 12:42:59 AM »

Thanks for the contact Tim. Sure wished he did .366 bores!

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quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2008, 05:39:11 AM »

Yeah, tell me about it!! $:-\$

Tim

300S+W · « **Reply #10 on:** April 04, 2008, 07:10:33 AM »

I'll keep yall posted on my experiences(good and bad). I can't turn back now as I've done bought all the reload tools and components I need . Even have a 9.3x62mm dummy round made up! I guess if I'm suppose to have one it'll happen,if not

??

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Boxhead · « **Reply #11 on:** April 05, 2008, 03:09:29 PM »

I have 3 rebores (338-06, 35 Whelen, 9.3x62) that were performed by the since retired Cliff LaBounty. Jim Dubell bought Cliff's equipment and was trained by Cliff and now operates under Clearwater Reboring. I have no boubt that Jim can perform as Cliff did and my Labounty rebores easily shoot as well as my custom "match grade" barrels from some of the big names. I also have a 38 WCF rebore that Al Seigrist did that went on a Ruger Old Model Blackhawk conversion that shoots extremely well.

300S+W · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2008, 05:49:16 PM »

Jim Dubell is one of the guys I e-mailed about doing the rebore for me. Hope to hear from someone soon!

til later

Drilling Man · « **Reply #13 on:** June 09, 2008, 04:44:57 PM »

I just thought i'd bump this to the top, and add my 2 cents...

Waaaay back when, i had P.O. Ackley do a couple for me, and they were very good... Later i switched to http://www.redmansrifling.com/ and he is excelent! I'm sure he has worked on over a dozen bbls. for me over the years... Randy is a great guy too!!

I've had a couple others guys do them too, but Randy has done the most for me...

DM

AtlLaw · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2008, 07:28:12 AM »

Quote from: boomerdog on March 28, 2008, 08:07:15 AM

Anyone have any experience with having a barrel rebored? How did it turn out? Money well spent, or better off just rebarreling?

I've had 2 done and have been pleased with the results. If you can't get what you want any other way go for it. For example I've had a 243 Sav. M99C to rebored/rerifled to .358 and a 1903A1 Springfield to 338/06. In both cased the rebore was the most available and cheapest option. They were done by the late Dick Nickle in Washington State; a true gentleman and craftsman. I think nowadays you have more options available to you though.

Rangr44 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 11, 2008, 01:25:29 AM »

[I'm going from .25-06 to 9.3x62.]

You'll have learned more, if you mentioned that earlier - like in your O.P.

FYI - Most reborers won't rebore a barrel out, unless it has enough "meat" to be safe.

I know a muzzle O.D. of .600" is the minimum for any rebore to .358" - but I don't know what the minimum is, to rebore to 9.3mm (.366").

Additionally, many rebore shops will not touch chrome-lined barrels, and some shops have rebore issues with the way some original barrels were originally formed/rifled.

These are questions you need to ask any potential rebore specialist, after you measure your barrel's muzzle O.D. & determine if it's chrome-lined, etc.

300S+W · « **Reply #16 on:** June 11, 2008, 07:43:19 PM »

Rangr44,
I was already sure the barrel had enough material to safely bore out to .366 as it would have an O.D. of .725 when cut back to 20". Dan Pederson's web,Classic Barrel Works, pretty much covers any questions a person would have about reboring. It was that until you posted I hadn't seen any examples of a rebore of that much and how it worked out. My barreled action is at Clearwater Reboring and I should have it back in,hopefully,about a month. I do APPRECIATE the info!

til later

Boxhead · « **Reply #17 on:** June 14, 2008, 09:14:46 AM »

IIRC, Cliff LaBounty's rule of thumb on barrel diameter was .010" as side at the muzzle. So a 35 Whelen would need ~.560" diameter at the muzzle. My factory Ruger M77 35 Whelen measures .560" as well.

Mckie Hollow · « **Reply #18 on:** June 15, 2008, 06:02:24 AM »

Hope You mean .100". .010" isn't very much, bout the thickness of 2 of My gray hairs

jbmi · « **Reply #19 on:** July 06, 2008, 01:25:14 PM »

I had a 308 Win. 88 rebored to a 338-08 (338 Federal) A guy named Dick Nickles just about had the job finished then died very unexpectedly, the gun was then sent over to Cliff LaBounty to finish it up. I feel I had two of the best people work on this gun and the way it shoots proves it.

Fred M · « **Reply #20 on:** September 05, 2008, 04:32:55 PM »

Re-bore when done well will be as good as any custom barrel. The rifling is cut rifling and the process is stress free. I had two 223 H&R
Ultras re-bored and the barrels milled octagon. The octagon is done before the re-boreing. The two H&R Handi rifles are super accurate one is a 6x47 the other a 257 Roberts. Both will group less than a 1/2" with three shots.

At present I have a Ruger#1 in 243 rebored to 6.5x284 the barrel is also milled octagon. This is to loose some weight. The 26" barrel across the flats at the muzzle is 0.595. The barrel at the chamber end is reduced by 0.034 to allow the use of the existing Ruger 1/4 rib.

The job is done by Ron Smith of Wimborne Alberta Canada. He also makes both Stainless and Chrome Moly barrels any size you want
all his barrels are match grade. He also produces gain twist barrels if want it. He says he makes more gain twist barrels than regular twist.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #21 on:** September 05, 2008, 05:16:00 PM »

Quote from: jbmi on July 06, 2008, 01:25:14 PM

I had a 308 Win. 88 rebored to a 338-08 (338 Federal) A guy named Dick Nickles just about had the job finished then died very unexpectedly,

I've know I've said it before here, but Dick did a rebore/rerifle on 2 rifles for me. One was a Savage M99C from 243 to 358 that I'm working with for this year's season. First time I've shot it since '01. Done right, a rebore is fine. And Dick did it right! I don't see how he made any money though... the calls he made to me from Washington to Georgia must have eaten up all his profit! The other was my beloved 338/06; a M1903A1 Springfield with it's issue barrel.