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The truth, why our Allies left Iraq
« on: July 02, 2008, 07:12:26 PM »
Another thing you will not hear our media report on ,but it has been going around Europe and other Country's who were with us from the first in the Iraq war.
My Family lives in England ,and they get news Papers from all over Europe that are translated into English.
My Family there, and in Australia have been telling me this now for some time , I didn't say any thing until now, and  more Americans have heard this also.
Bush sits up there in the White House pushing this War on Terror ,He has gotten laws passed from this effecting some of our rights , All of this as he is saying ,to fight Terrorist over there ,because if we don't ,they will infiltrate here and Kill Americans on our home soil . In this i agree to a point.
The War on terror has had an enormous cost to it , lots of lives , and when they attacked us ,many Country's Cried for us ,as we Cried at our loss.
Bush in seeming to hold stead fast was consumed with keeping this enemy out of this country ,and was telling our Allies the same.
As time went on ,our Allies started talking to each other about things behind our back . Some of the things didn't make any sense to them about Bush in his War on Terror and what they saw going on here in our Country .  America was crying out about the problems with its southern Border ,And Every time Bush was confronted about this, he side stepped it ,avoided it , and if he did do something it was feeble, appearing to be for a show like he was on it .
Then the Amnesty thing blew it apart for some of  the Allies ,Bush talks about the enemy getting into in the heart land and this noble life or death cause ,Yet he turns around  to Americans and tells them he wants to make 20 Million illegals in their Country American Citizens ,qualifying them for Welfare . Shocked the Allies think
He doesn't know who they are ,or really came from  , why they came here , and why did he not do something about this after 9/11?? And now he wants 20 Million undocumented ,unrequested ,people who are not supposed to be here in the first place. After breaking the law are given the same rights as the people he is saying he is protecting? The Allies have said before ,if it were us who they attacked on 9/11 ,closing that Border would be the first thing they would do ,now they are confused.
Instead he does nothing about the safety of his citizens with this Border ,in ignoring this he has allowed the most Dangerous ,ruthless ,organized Gang in the World to enter America in waves ,MS13 ,they have spread into every place in this Country . FBI reports say they have taken over ,or killed all Hispanic or other gangs they came across. They go by many names , But they are the ones who command them all.
Its leaders are in Mexico now , To get into this gang kids they recruit must kill someone ,anyone , My wife's cousin was one they killed , last November ,she was working at a convenience store ,when they walked in they never said a word, and cut her in half literally with a shot gun . They were Juvenal's ,and here illegally ,the shooter took the empty shell and made a Necklace out of it. They caught them ,and they may get off the way it is looking .The FBI when they talked to us told us all about this ,and how most of their recruits are illegals ,like the ones like Bush wants to be a Citizen living in your town ,around your family .
That's my side of this ,Europe even is having to deal with them ,and their  MO is to be ruthless ,to make people fear you .and they are everywhere now,but mostly here . The FBI told us this ,so we can make sure to be careful .  Bush still has done nothing ,even when the FBI has reported this to him along with the Numbers of deaths . The Country's that were with us in Iraq , were hearing all this stuff also , and that it was reported more in their Country than over here where it is the worst . It is no wonder that they finally got to where they really couldn't take us seriously about 9/11 or the War on Terror.
Spain elected that leftist because their Media had been watching this for some time ,and was telling them about it . Sure that bomb there didn't help things , but They had heard enough . Quote : ( We are not in this anymore for the right reason , And we refuse to play stupid with  a man who preaches to us about Terrorist in our mist , Yet ignores an open door, he is leaving open in his own Country . Or tells his People about an enemy he is protecting them from , while another one flows through that open door . An enemy he intends to make into honorary Citizens !! that has Murdered far more Americans than Al Queda )
Spain pulled out angry  ,others began to follow , Australia was the latest . One Allie Commander told a reporter from Fox News before loading up , It was long over due ,And that Bush should start leading by example ,instead of a lot made up words .
This Friends is why they left ,if they leave a few behind they are not Combat troops . Other than getting in his face and telling him this ,they just went home.
Even our closest Allies England and Poland are planing to do the same.
And can we blame them for leaving ? , i live in a Border state where i see the damage , and Bush goes on about this protecting us. What he has done is nothing , it hasn't helped a thing , and he gets angry when states take this task up on there own.
If Al Queda wanted to it could walk across this Border in lots of places  ,and i am sure they have by now.
Arizona picked up what they thought were illegals .they were Islamics ,who were trained to speak Spanish ,and how to blend in with a group of Mexicans.
The FBI traced them back to a terrorist training camp in Syria.
If the rest of the world feels like this , i cannot understand why we don't ,its our Country.
In this time i Command ,That you take the Secular to Jerusalem .
There you rid the Holy City of the Scourge of Islam , Make the streets run red with the Blood of those who wish to wash Israel and Christianity from the face of the Earth.
Constantine III

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Re: The truth, why our Allies left Iraq
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 06:12:14 AM »
Sounds believable to me.  I have asked myself this very question. 
We are in a war on terror, yet the borders are wide open. 
In addition, apparently, border patrol seems to be discouraged from doing a job they are certainly capable of doing.  Two border patrol agents are in prison, in solitary confinement, for shooting a dangerous illegal. 
From my frame of reference, it seems to be insane.  Or maybe he is serving the interests of some other agenda.
Then this morning, I heard on the radio, John McCain gave a recent speech at a lettuce farm, thanking illegals for doing jobs American's won't do.
I could really use some help, I don't understand what in the hell is going on.
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Re: The truth, why our Allies left Iraq
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 07:08:28 AM »
lrs , I was born in Texas , My parents were both British citizens Visiting there with my other relatives who were born Americans . My Mother went into labor in Texas .
So they stayed longer as a result of that . The problem was when they attempted to return to England , I was an American Citizen ,yes an anchor baby.
It got worked out ,and i grew up in England 12 years of my life , Then i returned here ,and i learned to appreciate that i was an American.
My family still lives in England and Australia ,so i get news sometimes Americans are never told about . I am not one of those snooty Europeans , but i understand them well.
And the common population there isn't any different in fears and beliefs than we are.
What i am told is our Allies think Bush and our Congress are now liers. But they are being polite out of respect to the American people, who suffered the horrors of 9/11.
To them we have gone from a shining example , to a confused multi cultural group of peoples thrown together in one spot.
We are like a Hydra and the heads are fighting each other , while Nero plays the violin as Rome is burning.
America does not have the Money to do business as usual , its people know this ,yet Washington still spends like it is still the good old days.
Then our Government thinks the same solution it always has ,TAX more ,that will fix it .But their way of doing things has caused that Tax base to vanish.
This is a great Forum ,the people here seem to have grown a Brain , and they discuss the issues instead of dismissing any thing contrary to there beliefs.
I don't have all the answers ,and if you feel you need to inject your opinion please do ,that is how things get to the goal of finding the truth.
The one thing i do have is i can get information from other places Americans don't seem to be told about.
If they do get told it is because a problem or situation that started long ago ,has grown so large now that it cant be covered up any longer.
Thus a good example is ,the reason for oil prices rising over 100% in one year ,and that still hasn't been explained with any clarity.
Only the usual finger pointing like children ,and it only results in insulting our intelligence, further showing our Governments true opinion of us.
In this time i Command ,That you take the Secular to Jerusalem .
There you rid the Holy City of the Scourge of Islam , Make the streets run red with the Blood of those who wish to wash Israel and Christianity from the face of the Earth.
Constantine III

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Re: The truth, why our Allies left Iraq
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 07:57:17 AM »
I appreciate that.  I DO have opinions, no doubt about it.  But I have many more questions than answers.
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