Author Topic: why sig? (Read 4136 times)

dragthewaters · « **on:** April 09, 2003, 03:41:25 PM »

hey, it will be a while but I am going to get a new handgun in .357sig or 40s&w probably, but anyway I want to no why you guys think sig is better than HK or another brand of higher end guns?

BigDaddyB · « **Reply #1 on:** April 09, 2003, 04:12:18 PM »

For me, this is easy!

1) Reliability. I've owned 3 Sigs and never had a single malfunction that could be blamed on the gun. I think I've had 1 ammo related FTE.

2) Construction. These guns are VERY well built. They exhude quality.

3) Accuracy. Let's face it. Carry guns don't have to be THAT accurate. It is certainly a big plus, but if you make a 25 yard shot, you're going to have a hard time pleading defense. These guns have sufficient accuracy to make them a real joy to shoot. Even the P239 is really accurate and fun to shoot.

4) Action. Sigs have a great trigger straight from the factory.

5) Ergonomics. Sigs have the right angles to point to target very naturally.

6) Concealability. Sigs that are made for CCW have rounded edges where it counts and are very easy and comfortable to conceal.

These are the major strong points in my opinion. Out of fairness, I'll give you the few complaints I have.

1) The blued finishes could be better. Blued Sigs tend to show holster wear more readily than other high quality handguns, IMO.

2) The mags are just plain expensive for some of the CCW models.

All in all, I'm sold on them. I LOVE my Sigs and don't plan to part with either of them.

Hope this helps,

jamie · « **Reply #2 on:** April 09, 2003, 07:24:33 PM »

There are alot of guns on the market and many people have their own opinions as to why each is best. Fact is, I have owned Colt, S&W, Taurus, Springfield, and Sig. Out of these I paid less for the Sig P239 than any other and it was absolutely amazing. Not only was it accurate the trigger was perfectly smooth with no stacking. Now when you add the guns that some of my shooting friends owned it get more interesting. I paid $485 for the 239 and $550 for the 245 or about $75 less than my friends comparable glock. The glock lost it's front sight at 200 round mark. Even with the front sight it wasn't as accurate as the Sig. The only other gun that I thought was equal to the Sig in performance is the Kimber. It isn't better but it is equal, it also cost twice as much as the Sig. Other than my Encore, the Sigs are the only handguns I have ever ownd that required nothing but cleaning and to be fed.

williamlayton · « **Reply #3 on:** April 10, 2003, 01:24:43 AM »

i noticed the calibers which interested you. sig makes a .40 nad you can purchase another barrel in a 357. completely interchangable with ease. if you look you will find a gun that will fit your hand and eye and this will be the first to you buy. "if we all fell in love with the same woman it would be a heck of a fistfight"--PS-and i'd still be single.
blessings

BigDaddyB · « **Reply #4 on:** April 10, 2003, 02:31:09 AM »

Quote from: jamie

The only other gun that I thought was equal to the Sig in performance is the Kimber. It isn't better but it is equal, it also cost twice as much as the Sig.

I do love my Kimber. As much as I hate to admit it, you're right. Sig quality is every bit as good, for much less money.

That's the only problem with owning Sigs and 'boutique' guns. It makes you wonder why the others cost so much. It'll spoil you against other makers. If Sig can produce that kind of quality for such a comparably reasonable price, why can't others.

jamie · « **Reply #5 on:** April 10, 2003, 09:33:36 AM »

Yep BigDaddyB, I walked into store to get a Kimber after shooting a few of them and walked out with a P245 and alot of money left in my pocket.

Dragthewaters, I'd stick with the 357 and not the 40. It's hard to explain but that little bottleneck round is addicting.

BigDaddyB · « **Reply #6 on:** April 10, 2003, 12:28:12 PM »

Quote from: jamie

Yep BigDaddyB, I walked into store to get a Kimber after shooting a few of them and walked out with a P245 and alot of money left in my pocket.

Same here! I went looking at an Ultra Tactical, and walked out with a P239 duotone and $200 in my pocket. I haven't regreted it since.

I do love my 1911's for fun shooting, but I carry Sigs. Period! When you're betting your life on it, that Sig reliability is hard to beat.

dragthewaters · « **Reply #7 on:** April 10, 2003, 03:09:52 PM »

well I have a glock 17 right now and I like it, I dont like revolvers, so I am just going to get another pistol a little while longer, this next I may carry, and I preffered a faster bullet than the 45big bore, that is why I was looking at a .357sig, and I liked the way sigs looked, I have never shot one, does anyone have anything to say about the HK usp?

BigDaddyB · « **Reply #8 on:** April 10, 2003, 03:39:52 PM »

Quote from: dragthewaters

I liked the way sigs looked, I have never shot one, does anyone have anything to say about the HK usp?

H&K's are great guns, but are somewhat 'blocky' in design. There's certainly nothing wrong with them. I traded a USP fullsize .45 in stainless to get my P239.

You may want to take this question to the general handgun discussion. Being that this is a Sig board, our views may be a bit 'slanted'.

dragthewaters · « **Reply #9 on:** April 10, 2003, 03:42:02 PM »

yes i no they would be that way, I wanted to see why the sig lovers are so in love, blocky>, well I love the way they look

BigDaddyB · « **Reply #10 on:** April 10, 2003, 03:45:50 PM »

Quote from: dragthewaters

I wanted to see why the sig lovers are so in love...

USP's are VERY 'business only' looking weapons.

Find a range that rents guns and shoot a P239. I think that'll do more for understanding us 'Sigophiles' than any words we can say. Sigs are just one huge amount of gun for the money.

jamie · « **Reply #11 on:** April 10, 2003, 05:06:48 PM »

Nothing wrong with the H&K's, they are excellent guns. They're not better than the Sig's and again, they cost more.

A62Rambler · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2003, 05:56:34 PM »

For what it's worth, I rented an H-K USP compact a few years ago. After shooting it I realized I shot Sigs better. I like H-K's cocked and locked option but their double action pull was much longer feeling to me than Sigs. I also think the Sigs offer much more concealable guns. I love H-Ks but I just bought two Sigs. I like the price of Glocks but I managed to get my new Sigs for Glock prices so I got the best of both worlds. I still dream of owning an H-K P7M8 but it is only a dream at the price it costs!

broken arrow · « **Reply #13 on:** July 15, 2003, 08:23:59 AM »

I carry a department issued H&K USP .45 on duty and a SIG P-229 .40 off duty and at my off-duty employment. My trust is well placed in both firearms both are high quality, rugged and dependable. I prefer the Sig for two reasons: The magazine release and the decocker. I do not like either on the H&K. There is no need for the thumb safety/ability to carry cocked and locked on a double action pistol and the magazine release is not in a natural position under the trigger guard. When it's time to combat reload, I hope I can hit it quickly. I practice my butt off, I just wish we had bought Sigs for carry. Our SWAT team selected the H&Ks because they think the world revolves around them. Sig owners know which weapon they want in a jam!!!

inluvwithsara · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2004, 04:26:10 AM »

I own a 2340 sig...love it...best fixed sights I have ever seen...
I own or owned, a Glock 21, 23, 26, 30

Glock Pluses...
$450 bucks for fixed sights on them...(if you paid more then you were had)
low bore axis...light, nice balance...light recoil, little muzzle flip...
Glock Minuses...
balance changes with as the mag empties...Factory Fixed sights are not a fast or percision as the sig (opinion)
Un suported chamber...the 23 had a brass failure and blew apart from reloads...sigs have a suported barrel, as do the HK...this isn't really an issue unless you reload...

HK's are nice, but some complain that the grips are to rough...my complaint is that they are always 300 more than glocks, and 200 more than sigs...not worth it to me...
I will say for traditional da/sa the sig 2340 has the sweetest feel I have ever felt...

oh, on the glock vs sig....If I squeze a glock hard, I get the best groups, if I use a lighter grip on the sig I get the best groups...
I love them both...thousands of rounds though them all, and not one failure...(minus my beloved 23 blowing up)

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 28, 2008, 02:18:39 PM »

accurracy.. the first day i got my 9mm 225 i was of course at the range..
the owner of the range ask to shoot it.. he was hitting things down at the 100 yd
marker..i cant ,but if you have the ability.. they will hit accurrately at an 100 yds..
i saw it ,,luckyly a bug didnt fly in my mouth.

AZHoosier · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:18:06 PM »

My P220 has been just great. It was an issue duty weapon, the I was able to purchase it on retirement. CHEAP, DIRT CHEAP!! Could not let it go, just had to take her home with me when I left. I shot many, many rounds as a Dept. firearms instructor and SWAT member. Never, ever failed with the duty Hydrashocks or low voltage target/practice ammo we used. I own a Smith and it doesn't compare with the Sig. I've shot lots of different makes and the Sig fits the best.

ihuntbucks · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2008, 10:05:53 PM »

I have a HK USP in .40 and a Sig 2340 in .40 w/the .357 Sig barrel (both with night sights).Both have worked perfect with both factory and home-brewed ammo.Both are easy to clean and up keep.I like the cock and lock on the USP,and the de-cocker on both.The travel on the tigger pull on the 2340 is a little long compared to the USP and it took me a little getting use to.Of couse that was several 100's of rounds ago.The grip of the USP is a little fatter than the 2340,since I put Hogue sleeve grips on both.The USP was a real tug-of-war to get it on.In a fight I would feel ok with either one.I think either one would serve you well.The USP did cost "several dollars" more than the Sig,but is it better,no...I love both of them.........Rick

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #18 on:** April 24, 2008, 07:42:13 AM »

They are accurate, as are many other makes. They tend to be flawless out of the box, as are many other makes. The triggers are smooth and just get better with use, as are many others. Combat design ruggedness, as are some others. Feel and mechanical function and simplicity quietly say high quality, as do a few others. Reasonable cost when compared to the semi custom guns it outperforms. If G lock's weren't so ugly and had a DA/SA design they would compare favorably with Sig Sauer. For my money it is a Craftsman vs. Snap On comparison. HK wow they are expensive, G locks with the DA/SA of a Sig and not so great feeling triggers. All are fine weapons and probably best to shoot each and decide, even though Sig is the best! This is my opinion only and dosn't reflect the opinions of many of my friends whose taste in guns and dogs can't be accounted for.

rockbilly · « **Reply #19 on:** April 24, 2008, 06:27:04 PM »

Why Sig? Do they make anything else?

I have a wide variety of autos in the safe, I have seven Sigs at this time, and love every one of them. I have fired thousands of rounds through my guns, many of which were bought used (police trades) and have never had a malfunction. They are all, from the .380 to the .45s fairly accurate, very dependable, and would be my first choice in a SHTF situation.

I use to own two Kimbers, I couldn't say that about them! (Notice I said USE TO OWN, they had feed problems that we never could resolve so I traded both of them off.)

six_gunz · « **Reply #20 on:** April 24, 2008, 07:10:46 PM »

I don't own one of their big boys YET, but I own the Sig Mosquito for plinking and absolutely love it. Very accurate and a blast to shoot.
When I pick it up it feels like it was custom made for my hand and is so light I can shoot it for hours and not tire.
The only complaint is the extra mags are pricey. I'd love to buy a P226 or maybe a P220.