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Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« on: November 10, 2009, 04:11:38 AM »
This is not my story.
This was originally posted by 'Mike Minihan' over on the Falfiles.com in October 2006.
Posted here without further comment, for your collective input -


Back in the winter of 2001 my youngest son and I were on our way from Boise, Idaho to Medford, Oregon. We had taken a car trailer to his old place in Boise in order to haul his non-running Jeep to his new place in Medford. We hit an area of heavy snow in the southern Cascades around 2:00 a.m. It took 45 minutes or so to get down the mountain. We had, of course been drinking coffee to stay alert.

About 25 miles west of the pass it became obvious that the last few quarts of coffee had to be drained. We stopped at a wide spot in the road near a summer tourist haunt, deserted in winter. There is a gas station and ice cream joint on the west side of the road, closed this time of year, and no town or settlement within 30 miles. This is tall timber country, and unsettled. Across the road is a small parking area for the ice cream joint. It is paved and about 200 ft. wide and 80 ft. deep. I pulled in and as I stepped out with .45 on hip, it occurred to me in a flash that grabbing the 590 Mossy would be good.

As we walked to the far end of the area to be well off the road, the hair on my arms and the back of my neck stood on end. The area directly to our front was open with a depth of 50 yards and a width of 100 yards. The night was clear and cold, 8-10 inches of snow on the ground, and with a moon almost full, so we could see quite well. While standing and taking a leak, with son about 15 ft. to my right I saw, as if springing from the earth in front of us across the open area 10 or 12 creatures moving RAPIDLY back and forth in sort of a Thatch weave pattern. These things, not human men, were close to 7 ft. tall, thin, bipedal with long arms, medium length gray fur, and damned fast on their feet. I brought the shotgun up and slid the safety off, as son was drawing his .45.

I don’t know if I can adequately explain the overwhelming feeling of menace, but here goes. I had been operating on pure instinct since I had stepped from the pickup, the rotten feeling hit me a split second before the things arrived, the feeling?, instinct?, was that we were prey, and subject to a very bad death, and to be slaughtered and eaten, not a logical process, gut feeling and massively overwhelming.

As they were moving about in front of us, more appeared and mixed among them, all the while running about fast in front of us. Son and I were backing toward the truck, I WOULD NOT present my back to them, and some of them peeled off right and left in an encirclement movement. They were rolling in fast from the sides now, I could smell and feel their presence. We got to the truck loaded on adrenaline and ready to kill, as we both knew we were in grave danger. We piled into the truck, locked doors. I had keys out and ready, as my butt neared the seat, I had the engine lit and trans. in gear and gas pedal mashed in one motion. Adrenaline is great stuff! As we fled, yes fled, something VERY close by let out a ululating scream of rage, and pain. I believe one or more of the group had gotten really close to us in their pursuit and I ran over the foot of one of them, yeah they were that close. We rolled onto the highway and I told son to watch the bed of the pickup as well as the trailer, he already was indexed to the rear with the shotgun.

We hauled ass for at least 20 miles before the feeling of grave danger started to abate. The feeling that nailed both of us, as we discussed soon afterward, was one of being prey, and soon to be slaughtered and eaten. I am not easily led, and neither believe or disbelieve all the bigfoot, ghost and werewolf stuff, in fact I am skeptical. Son was speaking with a coworker about 6 months later who had grown up in Prospect, Oregon, about 30 miles south of Union Creek where the incident took place. He asked Jake if he had ever heard of any strange goings-on in the area. Jake went ashy white and pretty much retold the above tale. He says to avoid the place at night.

A family friend, a 25 yr. retired cop not given to flights of fancy and an excellent observer, had a tale very similar from a year before. I told my wife of this event of course, she looked at me at the beginning as though I had developed a 3rd eyeball in the center of my forehead. That was from shock, she did believe me, but did not wish to hear any details. She said the tale gave her chills. Me too, as I write this, hair on back of neck and forearms is sticking up. I have NOT gone back to explore, and would not without a large group of shotgun and flamethrower equipped men with me.

Son and I are both sane, sober persons, and not taken to hysteria. We were wide, VERY wide awake as things transpired. We saw and smelled what was there. As a sidebar neither of us heard footfalls from the creatures. They were silent until i hurt one as we were getting the Hell out of there.

To my knowledge, and I have researched, there is nothing that matches these creatures, unless one considers old legends and folk tales of “Were” creatures. To conclude, I have to fall back on Elmer Keiths famous line, “Hell, I was there.”

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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 04:27:37 AM »
Assuming the tale is fact not fiction which in such tales I generally assume the latter I'd say they mistook elk or deer for two legged critters in the dark and shadows.

I refuse to accept the existence of bigfoot or other ape like creatures unless and until I see one personally or some real proof is offered.


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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2009, 08:35:52 AM »
Not saying I believe the story, However I posted it over at the BFF (Bigfoot forums) and someone has confirmed what is what that location and what is like during the winter months. So at least some of the story as far as what is located at the location is true.

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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2009, 12:07:08 PM »
 ;)  Fact or fiction its a good story, and well told. I don't  believe in big foot
but i don't want to be proven wrong either. :D
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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2009, 04:12:01 PM »
It is a good story and of course could be true.

  But what doesn't sound right to me is that at 2 AM, on a snowy night, in the middle of nowhere, that they would pull into the back of a parking lot to pee.  Most would just pull to the side of the road almost anywhere along the way.  Who's going to see them at that time of night? 

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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 06:24:24 PM »
Good story, if you know the area you will know the road is not suited to pulling off with a trailer except in some place to turn out into.  Now going further than about two steps to pee in a snow storm is a little bit of a streach to me, but you never know.  Sounds like a good reason to carry a 45.  Larry
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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2009, 01:50:52 PM »
That story definately qualifies as "Strange or Unusual Experiences In The Outdoors".    :o

If I was that scared I think I would have started throwing lead in the air out of my Mossy.  But then again it is easy to talk tough from behind my computer monitor.
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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 02:00:09 PM »
I have never been anywhere near Medford OR.
 However I live in West KY. very close to Land Between the Lakes. there are lots of stories, some as phony as any Halloween tale, some are deadly serious.
 I have had a few encounters there of the very serious kind. If it were not for Divine intervention I knew I was going to die a very painful and agonizing death. I stabbed something one night that was stalking me. It nearly broke my wrist in its grip that night.
 The next time is when I thought I was dead, I had to whizz on the side of the road, I turned all the lights on, late at night. Then while I was in mid business all sounds in the forest stopped. It was like a funnel shape of silence coming my way, and narrowing down on me. I looked in the rearview mirror, and saw 2 red eyes glowing about 12 feet from the ground, it was running at me and was close.
 I got back in the car, 525 HP chevy in full grab the gears now action.
 and about 15 miles later I felt safe.
 If I had hit a possum at those speeds I would have died that way. But it would have been a peaceful death. As a former E.M.T. and volunteer fireman I have cleaned up many car accidents. So I don't make that statement lightly
 There is more I could tell about personal experiences there, But I won't for the flaming I know I will take.

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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 05:55:11 PM »
We won't flame you. We might not believe you but we won't flame you. Such stories are interesting to read even if I'm not always convinced by them. I wanna believe but can't really unless/until I have some such odd experience personally to convince me.


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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2009, 06:00:34 PM »
There is more I could tell about personal experiences there, But I won't for the flaming I know I will take.

Halfbreed,

I'd truly enjoy hearing more of your experiences. That's what makes this particular forum so interesting. You have my word that I'll not flame you.
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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2009, 08:19:36 AM »
Halfbreed I would really like to hear more of your stories and especially about what ever you stabbed. You stated it  had ahold of your wrist so I assume it had working thumbs? I assure you I will never flame make fun or discount you unless you openly say this was all a hoax. I want to believe and have had couple experiences that I dont know qualify but still am interested in finding the truth. Too many credible people have had encounters to all be fake! Thanks for the posting
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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2009, 02:18:41 PM »
Bill, your response is the most honest I have heard in years. We all think there is something out there, we just don't believe it, till WE see it.
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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2009, 02:32:35 AM »
 He had a holstered 45, but also grabs a shotgun to have to hold onto while unzipping? (No mention of his Son's additional 45 until later).

 Says he feels he's in grave danger of being eaten by large smelly creatures zipping around and surrounding him, and neither he nor his Son even fires a warning shot?

 In only moonlight (while being quite sure he and his Son were going to become dinner) he was able to determine that the creatures had "medium length gray fur." Amazing vision and presence of mind there; maybe since the creatures didn't make a sound he could concentrate on their plumage.

 He had "the keys out and ready." (Good on him; pee-pee dangling from his fly and still holding onto the 12 ga. I assume).

 And all this, after walking "to the far end of the area to be well off the road (80', walking in 10" of snow)" just to pee. In a totally deserted area. Was he worried about a girl walking up on him out of a snow bank?

 I wish people would take advantage of a community college course on critical thinking before they concoct such nonsense...
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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2009, 09:08:09 AM »
to Story and Halfbreed, thank you for sharing your stories and experiences, don't let the occasional unhappy person spoil it for all, Best wishes, :)

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Re: Enroute to Medford, Oregon
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2009, 07:05:20 PM »
 Yeah, them people calling BS what it is sure can be a buzz-killer for Cub Scouts around the campfire.  ;)
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