Thanks for the lesson guys. I was pretty excited about trying this in my 357 contender. My 12" pistol is set up with a red dot scope and I could see trying for a deer out to 100 yds after alot of practice. I was thinking the spire point type bullet might offer some advantage but according to my quickload program a 180 xtp started at 1600 fps and a 180 358 ss pistol shows almost "O" advantage out to that range. QC predicts the exact same flight path with a 75 yd zero and only 15 fps faster at 100 yds with the sleeker bullet. I can see for the guys with accurate rifles in 357 it might have an advantage for the longer shooting.