FAQ's and Help

[Diesel40]

I have spent a good bit of time today in the FAQ's and Help and Searching old Post.  There is a lot of good info there.  I spent a lot of time looking at the process of breaking in a new barrel and have a question that I could not figure out about the Bore Guide.  Does the bore Guide just aline the rod so that it doesn't rub?  I can't figure out if it just helps center the rod or if it protects the throat.  I am haveing a hard time putting in word what I am trying to say.  Say if you are using jb to polish the bore, does the patch rub on the throat or is that being protected.  I was thinking about just using the emty case and drill out the primer and use that for a guide.  As far as the gun is concerned does this protect as good as a bore guide does?  I realize that it can scratch the rod, but that i am not as concerned with.  Thanks for your help.

[MrJames680]

As I understand it a 'bore guide' does prevent the rod from rubbing the sides of the bore. I don't believe that you need to protect the throat. I didn't and my rifle(s) are plenty accurate. May want to get some more input on this before you try tho.

I hope this will clarify things for you if you haven't read this yet.

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums//index.php/topic,103479.msg1098284834.html#msg1098284834

James

[Hofs01]

Keeps the rod in perfect alignment to the bore & maintains rifle accuracy by eliminating wear in the chamber throat. Prevents solvent from entering mag., trigger mechanism, or spoiling stock finish

[stimpylu32]

D40

I use a drilled case for most of mine , the Handi's have long throats and most of the time , and the case could never reach to the lands anyway , I have not noticed any excessive throat wear at the bore / throat junction due to this .

I use the case's more to just aline the rod than anything else .

stimpy

[MrJames680]

I used this document as a guide. http://www.twincityrodandgun.com/PDF%20files/Rifle%20Bore%20Lapping.pdf (would this document be good in the FAQ?) I am totally satisfied with my accuracy. I did, however, do this process with the barrel off and in a vise to hold it. I also paid no attention to the crown and had it redone. I didn't polish the throat much and the chamber was done a second time as I had sticking case issues... 

If anyone disagrees with this I would love to know as it just helps me learn.

[stimpylu32]

I guess I'm just OLD SCHOOL , all I've ever done is shoot in my barrels , by that I take them out of the box , clean very well and then put 50 or so rounds down range , clean well again , another 50 rounds , clean and wa-laa its ready . 

So far this has worked for me , even with my .243 super lite , the problem child of Handi barrels .

stimpy

[quickdtoo]

I used to polish all of them, but I quit doing it unless I find one that doesn't want to shoot good with the first load I try in it, so far that hasn't happened!!  I'll add the link to the FAQs, thanks MrJames. 
 
Tim

[dpe.ahoy]

I'm in with stimpy and Tim, just shoot unless there is a problem.  We all need more practice and what better way to have fun?  I'll take shooting over running a cleaning rod anyday!   DP

[MrJames680]

The next barrel I get for my handi I will for sure just plain shoot and clean. 
I must admit that I am very technical and love to 'play' 
But there is something to be said for simplicity. 
My bolt action 1947 Winchester single shot 22LR- shoots like a lazer! 
All I do with it it keep it real clean. Its throat is super worn out/eroded. (so many rounds...) 
Dont want to bend this topic too much.

Diesel40-
Please let us know what you did and how it worked.   

James

[Diesel40]

I don't plan on polishing the bore, it shoot great the way it is. I was just curoius about the whole purpose of the bore guide.  I only clean and shoot mine. 

On another note, I was told when running a brush, run it from breach to muzzle only.  Do any of you do this or do you run them both ways?

[quickdtoo]

It's best and real easy to brush from the chamber on a Handi, but some rifles like semi-autos and leverguns you can't with a rod unless you use a pull thru or install the brush on the rod in the action which is a PIA, then you use a muzzle guard, which is what I use for a bore guide on the chamber end of a Handi except for the 17s and 204 for which I use Patchworms.  Better yet, don't use a brush at all, just use a foaming bore cleaner like WipeOut which is brushless, use the search on it, there are a million threads here on it and other foaming cleaners including some in the FAQs. 

Tim

[Diesel40]

Thanks Tim, I appreciate the help.  So do you not like to use a brush?  I have heard some say to use them and others not, that it can damage the bore.  When I bought my 243 my ffl is old school and told me to break it, just shoot it 50 time or so and run a brush through it after each shot and then just clean about every 50 shot or so. 

[quickdtoo]

I only use nylon brushes if I do brush, but about the only time I brush is if I have carbon fouling that the foaming cleaner won't remove, then I use Hoppe's Elite cleaner and just a few brush strokes.

Tim

http://www.6mmbr.com/borecleaning.html