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Offline Dennyboy17

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Need Info - Old 45 Cal Huntsman
« on: September 23, 2008, 08:15:12 AM »
My Dad bought a 45 caliber Huntsman back in the 1970s.  For lack of a better description, it looks like an old cavalry rifle (straight grip stock, case colored receiver, banded forearm, 28” barrel, etc.).  It has since passed from my father to my brother to me without a manual.  I am brand new to muzzleloading and have the following questions:

1.  What is max powder load and does it change with bullet weight?  I hope to use    777 powder to minimize corrosion.  Is there a website that has recommended loads for muzzleloading?  How do you know when you are at maximum?  Also, any bullet recommendations are welcome. 

2.  The original ramrod has been lost.  Where can I find a replacement?  As I recall, this ramrod, like the newer ones, contracted for storage under the barrel. 

3.  Does anyone make a conversion nipple to change over to 209 primers?  The breech plug seems to be a press / slip fit as there is no apparent means to engage a wrench of any type.  It does have a threaded nipple. 

4.  Any “no-no’s” that you just don’t do with these old guns?


I would love to get this old girl back into the field, but don’t know where to start.  Because of my lack of experience, I’m afraid to make a mistake – especially the kind that makes the gun explode in your hands.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

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Re: Need Info - Old 45 Cal Huntsman
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 11:57:06 AM »
Dennyboy I have all the info you need .I have an original Instruction manual with recomended loads and such. This info is at home though so I can't get it to you til tommorro I'll PM you. No need for the 209 primer it will work fine with out them. What is the ser# letters on the gun it will tell you yr of manufacture. Have you popped out the plug yet? You may still be able to get replacement Rod from Remington/H&R NEF but you will have to call them for sure. Also Hubbards makes a replacement rod that info is in the FAQ'S also.Have you looked down the bore yet any pitting or rust? Do you have any experience with other guns? Kurt
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Re: Need Info - Old 45 Cal Huntsman
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2008, 10:15:00 PM »
Just don't open the breach if you have a hang fire, you may end up with the breach plug in your head like a few others did with the push in breach plug.  Larry
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Re: Need Info - Old 45 Cal Huntsman
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2008, 05:07:41 AM »
OH boy ;D ;D
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Re: Need Info - Old 45 Cal Huntsman
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 05:20:55 AM »
Kurt,

Any information from the manual would be greatly appreciated - especially load related.  This is a big concern.

I want to change the primer to 209.  It currently has a "captured" #11 primer system that my brother installed.  You have to use a nutdriver to remove the "striker" to get to the primer, remove the primer, and then install the new primer.  After that, you have to reinstall the "striker" ==> 209 please.  I'll try to track down Hubbards.

The serial number letters are:  AS

I have not popped the plug or looked the bore over.  This may be another issue.  Is there any special method used to get the plug out?  Again, any help would be greatly appreciated. 





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Re: Need Info - Old 45 Cal Huntsman
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2008, 01:11:49 PM »
I have a 58 cal Huntsman that I finally got out and shot this year (bought it about 5 years ago).  I was shooting my Remington MLS and opened up the 209/musket cap conversion I bought and itstalled it.  I used the musket cap for the Remington and the 209 setup fit just perfectly in the Huntsman and worked great.
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Re: Need Info - Old 45 Cal Huntsman
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 04:32:13 AM »
Send me your snail mail address and I get this info to you. Kurt
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