Author Topic: Speer Grand Slam  (Read 1470 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Speer Grand Slam
« on: November 01, 2008, 07:56:03 AM »
I am loading some 200 grain bullets for my brothers 300 Win Mag. I have two types of Speer bullets. The Grand Slam and the "standard", both in 200 grain. What makes the Grand slam different or better or premium?

Cheese
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline AtlLaw

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (58)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6405
  • Gender: Male
  • A good woman, nice bike and fine guns!
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 08:59:40 AM »
Used to be 2 different lead alloys making up the core.  I believe that changed, going from my not so good memory, and if so, I don't know what sets them apart now.  Interesting question.   ???
Richard
Former Captain of Horse, keeper of the peace and interpreter of statute.  Currently a Gentleman of leisure.
Nemo me impune lacessit

                      
Support your local US Military Vets Motorcycle Club

Offline LaOtto222

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3828
  • Gender: Male
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 10:14:54 AM »
Here is the description of the Grand Slam Bullets

http://www.speer-bullets.com/default.asp?s1=3&s2=7&s3=19
Great men have vision and resolve to make dreams come true.

Offline Dand

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (35)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2974
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 03:30:35 PM »
I load the 200 gr Hot Core in my 300 win and like them very much.  I might have taken a small moose with them a few years ago.  Not positive as I got the ammo mixed up - hard to tell the 180s from 200's.  I like the 180 Hot Cores too and have taken at least a couple caribou with them. I use both extensively for practice and more often carry 180 and 200 Nosler Partitions in the field. 

I used to really like the 165 Grand Slams for this same rifle, accurate and cheaper than partitions.  But found all the 165's (including Nosler Part) made too much of a mess at close range so went to heavier bullets loaded a little slower - just to save meat. Seems that about that time, though I was  prepared for 200+ ranges, all the game was encountered at 100 or less for several years.


NRA Life

liberal Justice Hugo Black said, and I quote: "There are 'absolutes' in our Bill of Rights, and they were put there on purpose by men who knew what words meant and meant their prohibitions to be 'absolutes.'" End quote. From a recent article by Wayne LaPierre NRA

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2008, 04:37:23 PM »
I have been loading the Grand Slams just because they have been laying around for ten years and my brother needs ammo for the up coming white tail hunt. They may be over kill for white tail.

Cheese
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline Don Fischer

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1526
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 06:21:50 PM »
I had to go look at the new Grand Slam. Looks like they simply thickened the jacket and kept the origional mag tip design. Then did away with the two piece core which was softer in frint and harder in back in favor of the Hot core. I really used to like the old Speer bullets years ago. The Grand Slam was the first Speer bullet to get the mag tip, which is what they are calling the protected tip. In the early mag tip advertisements, they showed a high speed photo of a bullet leaving the barrel and the tip was gone. They claimed that the heat of the bullet going down the barrel softened the lead, or maybe melted it, and when it hit the air it was blown away. I always liked the mag tip idea, lot like the tip on a core lock.
:wink: Even a blind squrrel find's an acorn sometime's![/quote]

Offline Siskiyou

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3417
  • Gender: Male
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 06:39:02 PM »
 I believe one of the reasons Speer changed the Grand Slam bullet was they could no longer get the lead alloy used in it.  Kind of looks like they dropped the Mag-T line and re-names it the Grand Slam. ;)
There is a learning process to effectively using a gps.  Do not throw your compass and map away!

Boycott: San Francisco, L.A., Oakland, and City of Sacramento, CA.

Offline Lloyd Smale

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (32)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18267
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2008, 01:38:54 AM »
its been my favorite premium bullet for years. I gives great penetration but seems to open up more then a partition or x bullet. It seems to allways give me a tad better accuracy over the other premium bullets too.
blue lives matter

Offline TXSPIKE

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 71
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2008, 01:18:37 AM »
I've used them for years in my 7mag for whitetails.I started out using the 160gr but I was getting too much penetration,dropped down to 145gr and still got great penetration but they seemed to deliver more shock,resulting in many DRT kills.Never had a problem with these bullets fragmenting,only recovered two out of forty or so animals killed,they were both intack after much bone contact and nice mushrooms.

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2008, 03:26:55 AM »
I would guess the 200 grain Grand Slam in a 300 Win Mag would have tremendous penetration, especially on deer.

Cheese
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline TXSPIKE

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 71
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2008, 03:36:41 AM »
That would be my guess.The 200gr will kill them,but the 150,165 or 180gr. may be a better choice for whitetails.Those 200gr would be awesome for elk.

Offline BBF

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10042
  • Gender: Male
  • I feel much better now knowing it will get worse.
Re: Speer Grand Slam
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2008, 10:35:09 AM »
I've used the 200 gr Speers in 30-06 as well as in the 300 Win Mag which harvested my first moose. I also shot a small mulie with the 200 gr out of the 06. Little meat loss and of course full penetration. Interestingly in three 30-06 rifles the 200 gr. Speer pushed with a full load of H-4831 has produced some of the best groups ever out of those rifles. Since Speer doesn't use the two part cores in the Grand Slams anymore I see no advantage over the  Mag Tips other then the ballistic coefficient.
What is the point of Life if you can't have fun.