Hive Rifle

[MSM]

  I am interested in buying either a Contendor or Encore rifle. My application for the rifle may be unique. I live in an apartment complex large enough that I consider it a hive.  I am looking for a rifle that breaks down for concealment. The plan is to break the rifle down and carry it from my apartment to the truck in an igloo or dry box without raising the neighbors suspicions. The rifle would be reassembled at the range or camp. I have been using a different brand of break open take down rifle with some success but I am looking to move up in quality. My questin is this: Will accuracy be repeatable from taking the rifle apart and reassembly? I don't see why it wouldn't, but I thought I'd ask just in case.
  Scott   

[skb2706]

The 'compactness' of a Contender carbine is limited by the length of the barrel. The buttstock and action together would be around 16-18" the barrel is whatever you make it over 16". My personal experience has been that consistent assembly yields consistent accuracy. I often use my Contender carbines for prairie dog shoots, they have to be accurate or I would be wasting time and money by even going. I assemble, disassemble and change barrels all the time...often in the field. Never had a problem.

[MSM]

  That is what I need to know.
  Two more things, (1) Do the new Contendors and Encore actions have extractors or ejectors? (2) Can the hammers be manipulated without an audible click? Just some details I would like to confirm. I have seen some older Encore actions that the hammers clicked when cocked. The old pioneer trick of holding the trigger back for silent hammer cocking could not be used on those actions. Does the hammer click bother any one else or is it just me?
  Thanks in advance,
     Scott

[skb2706]

Extractors by definition. NO and NO.

No to my knowledge my G2 hammer nor my originals frames hammer can be c ocked without making a noise. No it doesn't bother me and has never meant the difference between getting a shot or not.

[Keith L]

I just tried a couple of my G2s, and if I hold back on the trigger as I cock the hammer, then release the trigger with the hammer at full cock I can cock it without the click.  The little click it makes when cocked normally has never troubled me in the past, and sure won't now.  But with a little practice I think you can make it noiseless.

[mcwoodduck]

After reading all the posts on the H&R posts.  I have two words for any take down rifles or even any bolt action.  You could go with a bolt action rifle.  The bolt action guns are going to fit in a duffel bag.
But those two words are:  TORQUE WRENCH.  If the screws all have the same tention you should get great repeatability.
Good luck.

[melbaLT4]

As for the click on cocking an encore it can be achieved silently also, but it is more work than I would care to do. I don't think i have ever noticed that it bothered me and I doubt I ever will, but for what its worth it can be done.

[Ladobe]

Here's a system I used for a time when I had to live in a condo right after the divorce and didn't want the neighbors to know I had firearms in it.   This Contender was one I put together for a predator calling rig at the time - has a custom 18" barrel and Choat folding stock, and by just folding the stock it would fit in a padded black tennis racket bag for carry in and out of the condo (blue bag just to show idea).     Had three different sized black tennis bags, several camera bags, duffel bags and even a nordic ski bag that worked for various firearms without having to break them down - even full size bench rifles.   Used gear bags or brief cases to carry the accessories.   Lived their 4 years and not a single neighbor even suspected I had guns.

[kevthebassman]

Get a baseball bat bag, the kind that looks like a long duffel.  Put your gun inside it, pick up an old softball team jersey from a secondhand store, and walk out like you own the place.