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encore/contender for youth
« on: November 07, 2008, 11:07:56 AM »
I have a 5 year old wanting a 22 of her own. Does it make sense to buy a contender and cut the stock down to fit her and replace the stock when she outgrows it or should I just get her a cricket and get a contender for myself ;D ;D?
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Re: encore/contender for youth
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2008, 11:22:22 AM »
I bought my daughter a Savage MKI 22LR single shot youth bolt action rifle, since it was similar to my Remington 580 22LR single shot adult bolt action rifle.
-The Savage wears a Weaver 2.5x20mm scope with Weaver rings.
-The Remington wears a Weaver 2.5-7x28mm scope with Millet Rings.

I have 2 synthetic stocks for my T/C Encore rifle and I am going cut down one for my daughter, so she can learn on the 24" 223 Remington rifle barrel after she is proficient with her Savage rifle.  Then she will graduate to the 243 Winchester barrel.
-The 223 Rem wears a Weaver 2-10x38mm scope with Leupold Dual Dovetail base and Med rings.
-The 243 Win wears a Weaver 3-9x38mm scope with Leupold Dual Dovetail base and Med rings.

I want to make sure she likes to shoot and doesn't get scared of too much recoil.

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Re: encore/contender for youth
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2008, 04:35:38 PM »
I taught my niece to shoot her cricket that I got her for Christmas ...she had to learn to shoot left handed and when she busted her first water filled bottle I wish everybody could have seen her face.... she busted quite a few in a row...then we went to her H&R 243 youth rifle with the lightest loads that I could make...it had too much muzzleblast.... let her shoot my fullsize Marlin 218 Bee and she can hit anything that she aims at with it. She killed her first deer Sunday morning with it..dropped it in its tracks....She can shoot the marlin better due to her not being scared of it. She loves to shoot her Cricket..( and it is one accurate little gun... has the cricket 4x scope on it...I love shooting it)

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Re: encore/contender for youth
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2008, 07:26:24 AM »
Okie,

I went the Contender route for my daughter, but I basically cheated. I already had the Contender frame and some handgun bbls. I merely bought the carbine stocks and bbls for her to use on my frame. There's a couple of problems with this, aside from the obvious that she's tying up my Contender!

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First, the current factory carbine bbls are all bull bbls. They're heavy. The overall weight of the carbine is light, but the center of balance for the rifle is much farther forwards than a "regular" youth 22 rifle would be. It is harder for a kid to hold it up and steady it because it "feels" heavier with the weight in the front of the rifle. This may not be a problem if all she's going to do is shoot it from a bench. My daughter is now 12, and she's big for 12, weighs over 100 lbs already, she still has trouble steadying the rifle in a "field hold" position. We've worked on it, and she's using a walking/shooting stick, which helps, but it's a lot to deal with for her. She has to "get ready" by setting the stick, putting the rifle on it, cocking the hammer, taking off the safety, etc, etc, moral of the story, is the rabbit or squirrel is long gone.

I also have a light weight custom carbine bbl I bought from Ladobe here on the forum for her to deer hunt with. The difference in weight and balance is tremendous. She can handle that rifle quite well compared to a bull bbl carbine.

The reason I started mine off with the Contender carbine is because she is left eye dominant and I have only right handed rifles. I did buy a right handed youth 22 marlin for her, but this was before I knew she would need to shoot left handed (like 6 years before  :D). I'm still not sure if she'll stay a hunter with me ( I hope so), but I'm confident enough now that she'll keep shooting that I'm ready to buy her a left handed 22 rifle for targets and small game. I'll probably keep her hunting deer with the Contender carbine and light bbl for a while longer before I spring to purchase her a big game rifle in left hand, since I'll not be able to use that myself if she stops hunting.

The nice thing about the Contender platform is that, yes you can change out stocks and even bbls as she gets older and her size and ability increase. If I hadn't already had the Contender to begin with, I may not have gone that route. It has clearly NOT been cheaper than just a youth 22 and youth hunting rifle! The plus side of that is, you can always trade or sell of those components you no longer need/use after all is said and done. I bought a regular stock set for mine and had it cut down to fit her, as I couldn't find any "youth" stocks anywhere.

If TC is listening, you are REALLY missing the boat here on Contender sales by not having a youth package of stock and lighter weight bbls avail in 22 lr and smaller caliber hunting bbls like 25-35, etc. The bull bbls are too heavy for kids.

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Re: encore/contender for youth
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2008, 01:52:37 AM »
I bought a factory walnut youth stock (on eBay) for one of my Contenders just for the grandkids to use for plinking and hunting. That way you don't have to cut down a good stock that you can use for yourself.
Let's keep those young people interested in hunting & shooting.

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Re: encore/contender for youth
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2008, 02:22:33 AM »
Get her a Cricket.  It will fit her better and you can always sell it when she gets done with it.

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Re: encore/contender for youth
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 12:22:01 PM »
Look at the Henry Mini-Bolt too. I got one for my son when he was 5. Its comes in stainless steel with fiber optic sights and is very accurate. He and I both prefered the Henry after comparing it side by side with the  Cricket. 
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Re: encore/contender for youth
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2008, 01:31:37 AM »
I have a 5 year old wanting a 22 of her own. Does it make sense to buy a contender and cut the stock down to fit her and replace the stock when she outgrows it or should I just get her a cricket and get a contender for myself ;D ;D?

It makes a lot of sense and puts a big smile on thier face. The barrel is a FRO 17" tapered 17MACH2.

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Re: encore/contender for youth
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2008, 01:35:37 AM »
I have a 5 year old wanting a 22 of her own. Does it make sense to buy a contender and cut the stock down to fit her and replace the stock when she outgrows it or should I just get her a cricket and get a contender for myself ;D ;D?

Yes, makes a lot of sense. It puts a big smile on their face. Barrel is a FRO 17" tapered 17MACH2.

Dave D.