DNR getting strict

[Lon371]

 Well I am not sure I would call it strict maybe power hungry.

 A couple friends were hunting last weekend. They had their tags license and all legal. One guy got a doe. Field dressed and drug her 40 yards out of the woods. Went back to camp got His uncles truck, DNR stopped him. He told the Officer he had got a doe and was going to pick her up. Officer started asking questions about the truck, about the property they were on, about his hunting license and tags. When the officer asked if he put his temporary tag on the deer, he said he was going to when he got back to the deer{didn't have a knife to notch it} MR DNR WROTE HIM A $250. TICKET FOR ILLEGALLY TRANSPORTING THE DEER FROM THE KILL SITE! 

 So you Kentucky hunter be warned. As soon as it is down, Before doing anything  TAG THAT DEER!

Be Safe and good luck.

Lonny

[littlecanoe]

What temporary tag?  Have they started that again?  I thought that all you had to do was register the deer on your license in ink then call it in during the same day.

Was he on government land?

[Hairtrigger]

  . Field dressed and drug her 40 yards out of the woods.  {didn't have a knife to notch it} MR DNR WROTE HIM A $250. TICKET FOR ILLEGALLY TRANSPORTING THE DEER FROM THE KILL SITE! 

 

How did he field dress it without a knife???

That would be the expected action where I am from. We need to tag the deer asap.
A knife and a pen are part of the gear that you need.

[kyredneck1911]

Explain the tagging please.
 That is no longer done in KY. unless I am missing something here.
 Yeah how did he field dress the deer if he didn't have a knife to "notch it" like you said.
 I'm confused!! 

[BBF]

He could have chewed out the notch !!
Unless he didn't have the tag with him when he shot the deer. That may be the real story.

[kyredneck1911]

He could have chewed out the notch !!
Unless he didn't have the tag with him when he shot the deer. That may be the real story.

"He could have chewed out the notch"   LOL
A few years ago we had to notch the skin of the rear leg too put the tag through or around the antler base if it was a buck, but that has been longago. I am the worst in the world to leave my permit in the truck and only too remember when I get halfway too my stand, so that is a possibility. I still want too know how the deer got field dressed though without a knife.

[Hairtrigger]

Here is a better explaination of Ohio tagging than I would have typed up.
http://www.ohiodnr.com/wildlife/dow/regulations/hunting_deer.aspx#tagging

Your buddy could have used a key or stick to punch a hole.... IF HE WANTED TO USE HIS DEER TAG ON A DOE

[Lon371]

I talked to his uncle last night, evidently he just didn't tag it for what ever reason. They hunt on private property. The way the uncle told me is, after gutting and moving the deer closer to the road out of the woods, he went after the truck. when he got back and parked next to the road DNR(2 young guys) pulled up and started questioning him. They wanted to know who's property-who's truck-who gave permission-He showed his license-then they wanted to know why the deer wasn't tagged. Which was still in the field in the open.

 I understand being strict- but I also don't understand $250.00 if everything was on the up and up. I guess poaching does happen during daylight hours. But since he was right out in the open and not trying to hide anything, wouldn't you give the guy a butt chewing make him tag it and let him go?

It happened down in Greensburg

Lonny

[littlecanoe]

Here are the regs from the website.  Seems pretty silly to me.  I'd say that most of us have broken the law when getting it out of the woods.  Here's one that needs to be changed
http://fw.ky.gov/hlogtag.asp?lid=573&NavPath=C151C540C158


Understanding Kentucky's New
Big Game Recording and Tagging Requirements
 

Hunter Harvest Log
Beginning with the 2002 Hunting Seasons, ALL hunters will be required to fill out a hunter harvest log for any turkey or deer they take during those seasons.

On the back of every paper license or permit purchased from a license dealer, such as Wal-mart or K-mart, hunters will notice some pre-printed blanks like the example shown here.



The process of filling in the log is easy:

Before you move the animal from the spot it is found:

Step 1: Mark the appropriate species box, write in the date, county where taken and sex of the animal, and put the harvest log back in your pocket.

Step 2: When you call to check in the animal, write down the confirmation number on the log in the blank provided, and keep the log with you anytime you're in the field during the season.

Hunters who do not recieve a hunter log as part of a license or permit purchase may request a blank log sheet from any license dealer, use the example shown here or in the 2002-03 Kentucky Turkey Hunting Guide or Kentucky Hunting & Trapping Guide, print one from here, or make their own using an index card and writing down the required information as described here.

Mandatory Harvest Check-In, Toll Free 1-800-245-4263
All harvested deer and turkeys must be telechecked through the toll-free, 24-hour automated phone-in system by midnight on the day the deer (or turkey) is recovered, and before being transported out of Kentucky.

HARVEST LOGS MUST NOT BE USED AS CARCASS TAGS!!!

Hunters must keep log information for any turkey or deer they take in their possession whenever they are in the field hunting during those seasons.

Tagging
Tagging an animal is only required when a harvested turkey or deer, for whatever reason, leaves the hunter's immediate possession. If the hunter who shot the animal leaves the carcass somewhere he or she's not, the carcass must be tagged first. If the hunter who shot the animal leaves the carcass with another hunter to transport, and isn't in the vehicle with the other hunter, the carcass must be tagged first. If the hunter who shot the animal leaves the carcass with a processor or taxidermist, the hunter must FIRST attach a carcass tag to the animal.

If the carcass never leaves the hunter's possession, no tag is required.

Carcass Tags are not provided with any type of permit purchase. ALL HUNTERS MUST MAKE THEIR OWN CARCASS TAGS IF NECESSARY.

A tag must be attached so it remains attached to the carcass until processing begins.  When carcass tags are required, they must contain the information below:

Name
Address
Confirmation Number or Authorization Number
Again, DO NOT USE YOUR HARVEST LOG AS A CARCASS TAG.

[kyredneck1911]

The harvest log is on the back of your KY. deer tag, my processer always fills out a carcass tag at his shop before you leave and attaches it too the deer. The only time I have ever made out my own tag was owning my own property and we didn't have to have deer tags.
From the way I am taking this, is he left the deer too go get his truck without putting a carcass tag on it and the DNR had seen what was going on and knew he had left the deer, so I guess they, the DNR, thought that seemed suspicious, but if he went ahead and tele-checked the deer before getting his truck than there should not have been a problem or that is what my Game Warden "friend" said. I think they were just looking to harass somebody and he unfortunantly got picked.

[littlecanoe]

Agreed kyredneck.

To me, this is a point where the intent of the law was abused.  There should have been clearer judgment on the part of the DNR employees.  Looks a little Barney Fife to me.

What will they do to the 70 year old fella who can't pack it out before he checks it?  What if the guy doesn't have a cell phone?  If the potential requirement is a body tag one should be provided for each potential deer that you buy a permit for.

[darat100]

Guys, I am lost on this one.  The law states you tag it before you touch the deer.  In my group, you carry a pen in your bag.  You shoot, walk to the deer, dig out your tag, then dress or drag him.  It is cut and dried.  In the wardens eyes, if he hadn't marked it, he has a poached deer in his possession.  They could have taken the truck, gun everything.  Seems pretty lenient to me.  Of course he was "going to tag him."  These are the kind of silly mistakes that give hunters a bad name.