Author Topic: Book for cannon model builders (Read 4252 times)

dan610324 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 03, 2008, 02:34:25 AM »

get a cat ??

WHY ??

better with an cannon

you feed it when you want

Double D · « **Reply #31 on:** November 03, 2008, 08:13:24 AM »

We've had cats before and then we have had 4 rat terriers.
We will not have any more cats.

Rat Terriers like to go cannon shooting and cats don't.

dan610324 · « **Reply #32 on:** November 03, 2008, 08:19:50 AM »

sorry if Im disturbing in the cat and dog discussion ,
but is it anyone who had ordered the book yet ??

Double D · « **Reply #33 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:32:33 AM »

Envelope is address and waiting to go to the post office in 5 minutes.

KABAR2 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:52:01 AM »

Quote from: cannonmn on November 03, 2008, 01:34:50 AM

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Only problem with ours is that they have very remarkable built-in "feed me" clocks. They are set for 5:00 AM sharp and if we're not up and feeding them by 5:01, things start getting knocked off of nightstands, and other noisy things begin happening. By 5:05 one of them will pounce on you and you either get up or continue to suffer, they will think of something worse to do.

I can relate but its only on Sat. & Sun. thats when they get their "treat" Fancy feast the rest of the week it's dry food,
I get up for work every morning at 4:40 am if I ever thougth to sleep in on a week end forget it! by 5am the visits start
and two of them are overweight so you know when they walk across you! total number of cats 6 I told M'Lady no more!
I have this nagging fear that by the time I'm in my 70's or 80's she will have adopted more and we will be one of those couples
you read about in the papers that had a hundred cats!

Oh yeah........ cannon book.......... Yeah it looks like an interesting book..... (got to keep it on topic )

dan610324 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 04, 2008, 11:14:52 AM »

this is the third time I got my email in return

its impossible for me to send them an email

Double D · « **Reply #36 on:** November 04, 2008, 01:09:25 PM »

Dan,

I sent my check yesterday. I'll let you know when it gets here.

Double D · « **Reply #37 on:** November 10, 2008, 12:58:14 PM »

The Book came today...thumbing through it, it's my opinion that you should buy it.
Here's the table of contents.

Introduction

Naval Carriage Nomenclature

Section on 1 The Naval Carriage
Getting started
Wooden Carriage Componets
Iron Hardware
Carriage Assembly

Color Plates

Section II- Gun Tool & Swivel Guns
Gun Tools
Sponge/Ram
Worm
Linstock
Slowmatch
Priming wire
Powder Ladle
Hand Spike
Water Bucket & Match Tub
Tompiom
Vent Cover
Block & Tackle

Swivel Guns
Swivel Gun yoke Hardware
Aiming Tiller
Swivel gun Mount
Swivel Gun Tools

Appendix
Cannon Identification tables
Block and tackle Formulas
Manila Rope Working load limits
Instructions for making slow match
Sample Carriage Plans
Glossary

Just thumbing through I picked up this tip. For structural material use millled "one by" and laminate. The book shows how to laminate and say that laminate is stronger than solid lumber. Laminated lumber is less prone to cracking as is solid lumber. Laminated lumber will be cheaper and easier to find. The forth reason he give for laminating is that you can leave spaces in the laminate that does away with need to drill deep straight holes for hardware...a that takes me up page 5

Terry C. · « **Reply #38 on:** November 10, 2008, 01:49:49 PM »

The trail on my Napoleon's field carriage is laminated, as is the bed base for the ¼-scale Coehorn mortar.

In the case of the field carriage, this was done more for convenience than strength. It's a lot easier to find good wood in standard sizes, and I was able to laminate to the width I needed by mixing thicknesses. But it did make a very solid and strong beam. I seriously doubt the trail, laminated from five oak boards (¾"-¼"-¾"-¼"-¾"), will ever warp.

In the case of the mortar bed, laminating allowed me to use oak that I already had on hand.

GGaskill · « **Reply #39 on:** November 10, 2008, 03:03:54 PM »

But since the originals weren't laminated, unless you consider making the trails from two pieces back-to-back laminations, paint will be needed to hide the fact.

Double D · « **Reply #40 on:** November 10, 2008, 03:51:28 PM »

Quote from: GGaskill on November 10, 2008, 03:03:54 PM

But since the originals weren't laminated, unless you consider making the trails from two pieces back-to-back laminations, paint will be needed to hide the fact.

Well of course, George

Double D · « **Reply #41 on:** November 11, 2008, 01:35:38 AM »

This book is about making a carriage for an 18th Naval gun and in particular a 3 PDR.. But the author tells you how to scale the carriage up or down for bigger or smaller guns.

The book goes over the construction of the hardware from all thread. There is some good info on the making of the cap square keypost, cap square hinge and cap square key.

Capsquares...he says acquire them commercally.

Terry C. · « **Reply #42 on:** November 12, 2008, 01:36:21 PM »

Quote from: GGaskill on November 10, 2008, 03:03:54 PM

But since the originals weren't laminated, unless you consider making the trails from two pieces back-to-back laminations, paint will be needed to hide the fact.

And cover up this beautiful alternating grain?

In the words of Ron White: "I don't think so, Scooter!"

Double D · « **Reply #43 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:09:57 AM »

Did anyone else pick up this book? I am interested in hearing others thoughts on the book.

dan610324 · « **Reply #44 on:** November 18, 2008, 04:55:20 AM »

I hope to have it delivered here mid next week
but I was told 7 - 10 days shipping time

Double D · « **Reply #45 on:** November 20, 2008, 04:56:01 AM »

Oh you swivel gun fans fans are going to love this book. The book shows how to make a yoke and it is not permanent fitted , It all slips together and its assembly and gun weight lock it all together. Tillers and mounts are also covered. The mount is part of the locking mechanism for the yoke.

dan610324 · « **Reply #46 on:** November 20, 2008, 07:41:41 AM »

I just open the book

havent spent more then 15 min with it yet .

but so far I really like it , very detailed instructions on how to do it step by step .
lots of good photos and sketches showing all steps .

this will be my evening literature the comming nights .

accuratemike · « **Reply #47 on:** November 21, 2008, 03:36:55 AM »

DD, you sure that's not my dog? I finally read this thread because I got an e-mail hawking the book (where did they get my address?), and I saw your dog. Huzzah Rat Terriers! Mine is the BEST! What great dogs! I'm sure glad I made the 300mi trek (one way) to pick her up. (MD to CT)

I've found my breed. And, shame on the next Bald Eagle, Horned Owl or Redtail that tries to eat one of my Guineas. She HATES them. Scans the sky diligently for any sign of marauders. Scratching up grass when she spots one at 1000'. She and my donkey get along famously too!. Best dog I have ever seen or had. My compliments on your taste. Enjoy, MIKE

Double D · « **Reply #48 on:** November 21, 2008, 04:41:30 AM »

Yep Rat Terriers are awesome...to my dogs a shot means an animal is shot and they should go get it. No problems with the cannon becauses the shot is down range before the dogs, but not by much. Problem with the Mortar at the shot, the round is still in the air as the dogs launch themselves.

I have been trying to figure out how to break these dogs to harness so the can pull my guns...only problem is that they only have one gear, high!

Right now all three of them are laying beside me here on the couch. Not bad as it is a bit chilly this morning and the dogs are warm.

Dan how you doing on the book? What do you think?

dan610324 · « **Reply #49 on:** November 21, 2008, 06:31:46 AM »

its an extremely well written book , very easy to follow the step by step instructions

but if I had been the author I would have add an chapter of how to dimension the carriage to your barrel .
and lots more pictures and sketches or drawings on other models of carriages .
the step by step instructions are good , and could easily been adapted for other styles also .

it could also have shown hove to use solid wood and not laminating thin layers of wood only .
but for most people without any knowledge of carriage manufacturing ,
its an very good book to learn the basics , I would recomend it strongly if someone asked me .

Double D · « **Reply #50 on:** November 21, 2008, 06:57:06 AM »

Dan actually that section on making a tracing of your barrel and then projecting the carriage onto the tracing on the wall is scaling the carriage to fit your cannon. You trace the projected drawing to make your scaled plan.

dan610324 · « **Reply #51 on:** November 21, 2008, 08:16:18 AM »

yeah but it would have been good with the real old descriptions on how to choose the dimensions for a specific cannon .
somewhere I have it all , it tell you thickness of cheaks and where to place the trunnion cut in the cheaks ,
diameter of wheels and wheel axles . where to place the axles and lots of more very interesting and important stuff for the construction and building your carriage .
all based on your cannons caliber and length and some other meassurements .

accuratemike · « **Reply #52 on:** November 21, 2008, 08:29:58 AM »

I have Mueller's Treatise. I think most of the dimensions given are in calibers (I'll have to dig it out and have a look). If your tube's caliber were to scale, things would fall right into place. Or, if you applied the scale of your tube's outside dimensions to the original's bore, you could extrapolate the scale dimensions. Now to find the book.....
MIKE

dan610324 · « **Reply #53 on:** November 21, 2008, 09:19:37 AM »

yeah , most of all old drawings and descriptions are based on the caliber
smaller meassurements are mostly given in 1/16th of an caliber .

Victor3 · « **Reply #54 on:** November 21, 2008, 11:02:48 PM »

Quote from: Double D on November 21, 2008, 04:41:30 AM

Right now all three of them are laying beside me here on the couch. Not bad as it is a bit chilly this morning and the dogs are warm.

A "Three Dog Night", eh?

One of those little dogs will probably be my Son's first very soon...

Double D · « **Reply #55 on:** November 22, 2008, 02:02:13 AM »

Don't get a Jack Russel for a kid, get a Rat Terrier...then visit the board sponsors and find the kid a nice cannnon.

accuratemike · « **Reply #56 on:** November 22, 2008, 03:50:13 AM »

Jack Russell's are nuts (eat their young and such). My brother liked my dog. Didn't feel like searching out a RT. Bought a much easier to find JRT (at least around here). Destroyed his house and bit everyone. Had to get rid of it. Then he got a Manchester. He keeps it outside. He said he wishes it had my dog's temperment. There is nothing like a Rat Terrier, even if they look similar. Now, if I could only have gotten her to pose with a powder can.....
MIKE