Author Topic: Remington 597 versus Ruger 10/22? (Read 1732 times)

His lordship. · « **on:** July 15, 2003, 01:44:59 PM »

I know that these two rifles have been discussed at length here and other places on the internet. I am considering one of them to add to my hunting collection and currently have been stuck on the decision.

I really like the Remington with its recoil buffer, twin bar rails, better feel to me with the stock, nicer looks, and the longer barrel. The aftermarket selection of barrel/stock/trigger add ons are out there and getting better. The groove on the receiver is convenient for scope mount. I have been hearing many complaints about the poor quality control at Remington, I am nervous about buying this rifle, my local Gander Mountain dealer says they have not been having problems in this area. :?

The Ruger 10/22 is known for reliability, I would need to add on a recoil buffer as I have heard of cracked recievers, and hole elongation in regards to the shaft pin that stops the bolt's rearward movement, but this is on high mileage guns. Lots of aftermarket stuff to change the gun to suit me. The scope mount holes on the receiver cause me to be apprehensive as they could strip out when mounting a scope (Weaver mount), as it is not made of steel. I have owned 3 Ruger guns and they never were sent back for repairs by anyone, built like tanks, they are. But the two Remington guns that I have owned also never had to be sent back (M 700 rifle, and 870 shotgun) for repairs either, but I did not think much of the Rems and sold them.

The price is about the same for the Ruger and Remington, if I could I would consider another CZ, they used to have a semi-auto, but it is no longer cataloged, I have only seen one anyways, plus the CZ is more expensive too. Never again on another Savage, had a Marlin model 60, jammed when new, after warranty work it shot good for many years, then started jamming again. I don't like the feel of the Thompson Center gun, too short in stock length. I already have a CZ 452 bolt action, very nice, but I would like a semi-auto for gopher hunting, target, etc.

I could wait on the purchase for another year, but who knows, I might get the itch. Any constructive comments from you guys would be appreciated.

Thanks

Bullseye · « **Reply #1 on:** July 15, 2003, 02:53:52 PM »

They are both good guns, I always give the nod to Remington myself.

You answered the question yourself in the first sentence about the Remington. You said the Remington feels better to me. That is the most important thing in my opinion when comparing good guns.

MI VHNTR · « **Reply #2 on:** July 15, 2003, 04:35:18 PM »

Here's a site with lots of rimfire info:
http://www.rimfirecentral.com
I've got a 10/22 LR in SS/Laminate and a Remington 597 LS Magnum in 17 HMR. I prefer the Remington in the fit/finish area. I've had zero problems with FTF and FTE with the 597. The magazine can be a bit funky to load though. MI VHNTR

myronman3 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2003, 05:46:47 PM »

ruger, ruger, ruger. there are so many options out there on how to trick one out it isnt funny anymore. as is works great,too. here is the main thing: god help you if you ever need service from remington. they will screw you six ways from sunday. like you said, rugers are built like tanks. my 10/22 would print 1/4 inch groups at 50 yards with only a weaver scope added. i did change barrels to a butler creek barrel and stock combo, it isnt any more accurate but it does look better now. had it for 12 years now, and i have all the confidence in the world that if tommorrow i have a problem, ruger will fix it, no muss no fuss.

Bullseye · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2003, 05:51:41 PM »

After my experience with Ruger in the last three weeks, I could probably rattle your confidence. You very well could be right though, never needed any service on my 4 Remingtons.

jhm · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2003, 03:56:31 AM »

Chris: Both of your choices are excellent rifles you will have to decide which one of the two best suits you, both manufactures make excellent weapons and each one will have problems and yes both will take care of the problem and again both of them will give you some static, its just the kind of business they are in no business is perfect and no product is perfect if that was the case we would all be shooting the same rifle, and you would here someone com,plaining about it! Now with all of that said I would go with a Remington as everyone has a ruger and they just never fit me as well as the remington I have the magnum model and it has been a decent rifle, not as good as the ruger 77-22mag. but that is a different set-up.

JIM

His lordship. · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2003, 06:01:37 AM »

I finally bought the Remington .597, took it to the range and it shot very well. I am so used to the centerfires with their hefty recoil, barrels that heat up quick, and copper fowling, that the .22 semi-auto seems like a microwave oven to a chef in its convenience. :grin:

I had 2 failures to eject/fire during the first 20 rounds, then total reliability after that up to 80 rounds. I have heard people complain about the trigger weight, it felt just a tad heavy but ok, crisp let off, otherwise I don't plan to add any aftermarket items at this time. The horror stories about Remington's poor customer service on problems did make me feel nervous about this purchase. From what I have read should there be any problems with this gun, it is usually an older design of extractor or clip, these can be replaced, or the rail slides are not torqued properly.

As this gun was designed to be maintenance free, I am wondering when it will need to be taken apart for a proper cleaning of the slide rails, rear of the bolt, etc. Or can I just squirt silicon spray in those areas?