looking for some 30-30 150 gr cast bullet load info.

[Kurt L]

Hi.
I have been looking for some load data on 150 lead cast bullets for a 30-30.
these are not gas check bullets just looking for some general loads and info.
I have found trailboss loads and some others in that ball park but I REALLY
do not want to buy any if I don't have to.

I have H380,H322,H335,R15,R7 Imr 3031 can I use the jacketed bullet load data for these powders
and start at the very bottom or a bit lower for the none GC bullets and shoot them about 1200-
1700 fps
thanks for any info or help,Kurt

[Larry Gibson]

All your powders are way to slow burning for use with a 150 gr PB bullet. If cast hard and with a correct fit to the throat PB bullets can be shot up through 1500 fps or so with excellent accuracy.  I like to use 5.5 gr of Bullseye with a 150 gr PB bullet at about 1100 fps. If not Bullsey then another of the pistol powders like Unique, etc. works best with the 150 PB bullets.

That's not what you wanted to hear but it's the way it is.

Larry Gibson

[Kurt L]

Thanks Larry
well I do have 3 pistol powders
296
Bluedot
2400

also with such a small charge would I need a case filler also?
I should also make a note that I have never loaded lead rifle ammo before so sorry if
I ask something real stupid I have used them in 357 and 44 and 45 colt but not a rifle.

[Kurt L]

I do remember reading blue dot info on these some place.

[D Crockett]

Kurt I think you should of said that the bullets are 150gr FN gc design with out the gc on them  and cast out of ww I don't know if that makes a difference or not. I am like you looking for some light loads to shoot and I sent you a pm to D Crockett

[Kurt L]

Ok thanks D Crockett.
I did not think to add that info

[ftlupton]

Timely post, I just cast my first 100 150 grainers for the 30-30 today. Mine have the gas check base so will have to do that. I am trying for a load with Unique and I read somewhere around 10 grs. Have to buy the lube sizer so I can lube and put on the gc. Have used H-335 with 35 grs for the 130gr HP load and it is great. I want around 1500fps. with the cast bullets. I had fun casting though and plan on doing more. Will watch for more posts. Good luck.

[Kurt L]

i just don't feel safe with 10 grains this and that in a 3030case , and I have not had any load help on this so I am going to just forget it and move on or have them melted or sell them.I am not blowing up a gun to try and save money on shooting I'll just buy more jacketed bullets.as I see it if you shoot at some angles you would not have any powder over the primer
as I said I never loaded cast in a rifle and I just don't feel good on this pistol powder thing.

[D Crockett]

Kurt L I have a friend in Texas that swears that 10.5 gr of unique is a good load it's the one that I am going to try first when I get all my back order stuff from Dillon D Crockett

[Kurt L]

don't you need a filler or something to take up all that extra space?

[jhalcott]

  Some people just do NOT enjoy loading and shooting cast bullets. It's definetly a personal thing. I wouldn't look at cast as a money saving hobby,it isn't ! I have a lot of loading manuals that I read and reread before I start to load a new cartridge. That is the important thing,GET some manuals. Do not take loading data from SOME ONE on the net as gospel. They may not have YOUR best interests in mind. If you can not find the same or close data in a manual it may be a bad load.
  Fillers CAN add a LOT of pressure to the load so should be included from the beginning. Since you do not say , are these gas checked designs or PLAIN based? Am I to assume these are for plinking and NOT hunting use. Another question is about the LUBE on these bullets, do you know what it is?  R7 and H335 powders have a STARTING velocity of 1950 to near 2000 feet per second with a 150 grain cast bullet. Did YOU cast the bullets  and from what alloy? Your original question is like asking "HOW much gas will my tank hold?" We need a good bit MORE info to make an honest guess.

[Kurt L]

I have a bunch of manuals,p.o ackley ,hornady,speer ,sierra,nosler ,etc none have a cast load.
thats why i am asking.
i got these from d crockett and he stated this on the 4th post as 150 fn gc bullet with out gas checks on them they have the alox lube on them, made from ww lead and yes these are just to go bang and play with but with some accuracy i hope.thanks kurt

[jhalcott]

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum/
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/
  Be aware of the fact that you will probably get some leading with these bullets with out the gas check applied. These 2 forums are filled with very nice people that shoot a LOT of lead and are quite helpfull to noobies!

[Lloyd Smale]

If you had gas checked bullets out of a little harder alloy id say that RE7 and 335 using starting loads might be fine. For a plain based bullet you might get away with it but i doubt if your going to get any tack driving accuracy with them. A fun plinking load in the 3030 is a 150 cast and 7 grains of unique. No filler needed it burns fine just as it is. recoil and noise are closer to a .22 then any other centerfire and they hit little critters with athourity. 9 grains should get you in the velocity area your looking for. But its substantialy louder

[Kurt L]

Ok thanks Lloyd.
I am going to try it out

[Tallwalker]

I would sure try 7.0 - 7.5 grains of Unique with a 150 grain cast bullet in the 30-30. I don't go higher than 10 grains with that powder myself, and find the lighter load quiet, and very accurate in all the 30-30's I've tried it in........ several.

[Sharps-Nut]

   Kurt how did your 30-30 turn out.  I played with lead in mine several years ago to make a cheap plinking round.  Unique worked well and I shot several undred before moving on and never experienced any trouble.  One word of advice, I saw you mentioned your loading books and you are missing a good one for lead.  Those manuals are great for loading that companies jacketed bullet but worthless for most any lead data.    Go buy a lyman reloading manual.  Lyman has been in the cast bullet game for years and will save you much frustration when looking for a lead load.  You are about to embark on a great hobby, don't get frustrated and stop now.   Best of luck SN.

[Kurt L]

i have not done any loads yet.as i have been loading deer hunting ammo and hunting.

[Sweetwater]

That Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook has data for the 151gr #311440 cast from #2 Alloy using your H335 and RX7. Mine is several years old and there may be an updated one available with more of the slower powders. As Lloyd pointed out, you will probably have issues using the slower powders without the gaschecks. I've used the lighter loads in my 32WSpl, same case as 30-30, with no issues. I handload them one at a time to be sure I don't put more than one charge of powder in each case. If I use a filler, I use cornmeal and fill to the bottom of the caseneck. There is lots written about it, and I don't use it very often, except in my 40-82Win. It's a huge case with a comparatively small amount of powder.

Enjoy that 30-30! A pound of Unique will last you a long time.

Regards,
Sweetwater

[marlinman2008]

hello everyone ive found some great cast loads in the lee 2nd edition handbook and i favor the one with a 150 gr cast using BL-C(2) @26 gr vel 1540 11,000 psi @27 gr 1600 vel 12,400 psi @28 gr 1670 vel 13,900 psi which should work great with wheel weight lead like i use it usually checks out at 10.4 bhn and i recomend tumble lubing with lee liquid alox that comes with the lee lube and size kit and     H-4198 also makes a good a good round with a 150gr cast @14 gr 1420 vel 11,000 psi @15gr 1470 vel 12,600 psi

[Kurt L]

Thanks marlin man It has been COLD,NASTY I have not done any loads on these and again thanks for your info.