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I bet Bob Smith knows what museum this is in!
« on: August 03, 2009, 01:37:48 AM »
Here's a short video that is certainly not optimized to show us the artifacts, but what I can see is quite intriguing.  See how much you can tell about what's in the case.  To me the most interesting things are the small chambers for early breechloading cannons, although I wouldn't mind having that French(?) bronze cannon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml8Zgo93YK4&feature=related

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Re: I bet Bob Smith knows what museum this is in!
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 03:24:22 AM »
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http://northcaribbeanresearch.com/Page_1.html
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Re: I bet Bob Smith knows what museum this is in!
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 04:58:49 AM »
No, I would not have known the museum, although I recognized the cannon. But from the excavations online. I think this is the same one?
http://www.admat.org.uk/ADMAT%20Le%20Dragon%20press%20release%20English%202b.pdf

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Re: I bet Bob Smith knows what museum this is in!
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 09:19:03 PM »
Bob, I see no mention of a cannon in that link, is that the link you intended to use?  Im not the most careful reader, maybe it is there and I missed it.

Boom, good work on recovering the rest of that video, looks like this is in the Dominican Republic-museum in a church no less.

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Re: I bet Bob Smith knows what museum this is in!
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2009, 02:56:23 AM »
Cannonmn,

 The French bronze gun is exhibited in the Museo de la Atarazanas located in the old "Colonial Zone" section of Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. The museum is not in a converted church, I think the "Oldest Church" in the title of the vid is in reference to the church shown near the end of the video.

It can't be the French ship Le Dragon that the bronze gun was recovered from, because her armament consisted of 18 iron nine-pounders, and some swivel guns.

"Le Dragon was originally an English privateer travelling probably under a Royal Warrant or letter of Marque. She was captured in August 1781 in the English Channel. She was taken into the French Royal Navy and the King of France paid 9438. 16. 6 livres. She was then transferred to Lorient and converted into a Corvette with a brigantine rig. She was “pierced” for 20 cannons and was eventually armed with 18 Scottish nine pounders (the last of the nine pounders just before the “Carronade” was first made) made by the Carron Iron Foundry in Falkirk in Scotland and sold in America. She was rigged for up to 12 swivel cannons and had a crew of up to 120 men."

The 'North Caribbean Research' website states that two bronze cannons have already been raised from "Napoleon's lost payroll ship," and that there should be 58 more yet to be recovered. A 60 gun warship would be classified as a "Fourth Rate, Ship of the Line" with two gun decks, the Le Dragon was classed as a Corvette which is a smaller ship.
RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

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Re: I bet Bob Smith knows what museum this is in!
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2009, 09:12:55 AM »
There used to be a cannon, but when they identified the wreck, much of the content seems to have vanished.

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